Question For Super Ram Owners?
Racer
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From: SAN DIEGO CA
I have the super ram setup with base and a mild cam. I also have long tube headers and larger injectors with adjustable FPR. I have dart pro heads and 3:54 gears. I pass smog everytime with flying colors in CA. The car burns clean.
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Burning Brakes
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From: San Pablo California
I know that there are certain counties within the state of California that do not require emissions testing but sadly Contra Costa County in which I reside is not one of them.
I can't tell you the number of header manufactures that I called looking for a set that would be legal with a EO# only to be told that no one builds them.
It still amazes me that a few that I know with long tubes that have retained the factory installed emissions systems are still able to pass and in some cases even cleaner.
It has always been my contention that what comes out of the exhaust pipes should be the deciding factor and nothing else.
Isn't this the object for doing these things and not how you were able to achieve them regardless of how it was done?
I can't tell you the number of header manufactures that I called looking for a set that would be legal with a EO# only to be told that no one builds them.
It still amazes me that a few that I know with long tubes that have retained the factory installed emissions systems are still able to pass and in some cases even cleaner.
It has always been my contention that what comes out of the exhaust pipes should be the deciding factor and nothing else.
Isn't this the object for doing these things and not how you were able to achieve them regardless of how it was done?
Racer
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It has always been my contention that what comes out of the exhaust pipes should be the deciding factor and nothing else.
Isn't this the object for doing these things and not how you were able to achieve them regardless of how it was done? "
Common sense would say you are correct. However I believe there are ulterior motives behind these laws.
Isn't this the object for doing these things and not how you were able to achieve them regardless of how it was done? "
Common sense would say you are correct. However I believe there are ulterior motives behind these laws.
Safety Car
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From: Little Elm TX
I know that there are certain counties within the state of California that do not require emissions testing but sadly Contra Costa County in which I reside is not one of them.
I can't tell you the number of header manufactures that I called looking for a set that would be legal with a EO# only to be told that no one builds them.
It still amazes me that a few that I know with long tubes that have retained the factory installed emissions systems are still able to pass and in some cases even cleaner.
It has always been my contention that what comes out of the exhaust pipes should be the deciding factor and nothing else.
Isn't this the object for doing these things and not how you were able to achieve them regardless of how it was done?
I can't tell you the number of header manufactures that I called looking for a set that would be legal with a EO# only to be told that no one builds them.
It still amazes me that a few that I know with long tubes that have retained the factory installed emissions systems are still able to pass and in some cases even cleaner.
It has always been my contention that what comes out of the exhaust pipes should be the deciding factor and nothing else.
Isn't this the object for doing these things and not how you were able to achieve them regardless of how it was done?
But, not positive, just what I heard years ago.
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From: Overland Park Kansas
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I think the problem the Air Resource Board has with Headers is the location of the O2 sensor. On a long tube header, they are forced to be in a primary so that I assume, they can heat-up.... Air Resource Board says that is the wrong way to do it, must be in the Collector so its a better reflection of what the engine is doing versus a single cylinder.
But, not positive, just what I heard years ago.
But, not positive, just what I heard years ago.
?????
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Burning Brakes
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From: San Pablo California
Since the Accel Intake, runners and Lingenfelter plenum are off the car, I am thinking about having everything polished for a better appearance.
Was wondering if any of you other Super Ram owners have done the same thing and if so, what were the results like?
Was wondering if any of you other Super Ram owners have done the same thing and if so, what were the results like?
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Superrams (especially the lids) polish up very nice. I like the painted/polished rib combo. OTOH, I've also seen replacement lids that are solid pieces of polished, glossy alum. Very nice.
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Burning Brakes
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From: San Pablo California
I saw a lid that was chromed but as nice as it looked, I am not sure if I want to go that route because of the cost.
I am dropping everything off tomorrow with my engine builder Marc Power at MP Motorsports, he is going to take it to the guy that does all of his polishing for a estimate.
Powder coating maybe a consideration as well.
I am dropping everything off tomorrow with my engine builder Marc Power at MP Motorsports, he is going to take it to the guy that does all of his polishing for a estimate.
Powder coating maybe a consideration as well.
Team Owner
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Probably set you back a few hundred they look pretty nice though
Dont bother with the base youll never see it. Shoot it black hides the dirt lol.
The sides of the SR are easy to get nice, runners take a bit more work.
Lid is a cakewalk.
Dont bother with the base youll never see it. Shoot it black hides the dirt lol.
The sides of the SR are easy to get nice, runners take a bit more work.
Lid is a cakewalk.
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Burning Brakes
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From: San Pablo California
Looking at the material of the extrude honed runners, not sure how well they will look because of the coarseness unlike the smooth factory design which responds very well to polishing.
Former Vendor
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From: Carmichael ca
Its pretty impressive you can run 1.7 60s with those gears. Something like 3.45s and headers and you should be in the 11s.
I have an LT4 Hotcam in my car with a Superram and it passes smog no problem. Not sure how it compares to what you have, but I'd bet you can go bigger. You can get the CARB stickers from Accel's tech people. As far as exhaust, I have 2 exhausts. One is "off road" and one is stock. If you want more info on the off road set-up drop me a PM.
I have an LT4 Hotcam in my car with a Superram and it passes smog no problem. Not sure how it compares to what you have, but I'd bet you can go bigger. You can get the CARB stickers from Accel's tech people. As far as exhaust, I have 2 exhausts. One is "off road" and one is stock. If you want more info on the off road set-up drop me a PM.
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Burning Brakes
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From: San Pablo California
Its pretty impressive you can run 1.7 60s with those gears. Something like 3.45s and headers and you should be in the 11s.
I have an LT4 Hotcam in my car with a Superram and it passes smog no problem. Not sure how it compares to what you have, but I'd bet you can go bigger. You can get the CARB stickers from Accel's tech people. As far as exhaust, I have 2 exhausts. One is "off road" and one is stock. If you want more info on the off road set-up drop me a PM.
I have an LT4 Hotcam in my car with a Superram and it passes smog no problem. Not sure how it compares to what you have, but I'd bet you can go bigger. You can get the CARB stickers from Accel's tech people. As far as exhaust, I have 2 exhausts. One is "off road" and one is stock. If you want more info on the off road set-up drop me a PM.
As far as gearing, after I broke the original Dana 36 3.07 gears and had to replace it with the higher 2.59 gear, I made up my mind to eventually replace everything with a much stronger Dana 44 and back to 3.07 gears. Keeping in mind that it is mostly a street car, the 3.07's would probably a better choice in terms of fuel economy and a lesser RPM level.
After the Super Ram gets installed by Marc Power of MP Motorsports in Santa Rosa sometime in June while I am away on vacation, I just hope that the tune is going to be reasonably close since the air fuel mixture ratios will have changed. Currently I have a piggy back chip designed by Proms for less that I am sure will need to be redone. Would like to get it on a dyno to see where I am at.
Yes, 11 second ET's do sound good but with the factory manifolds and Magnaflow cat back system, this is going to be the big draw back.
The problem that I see with the "off road" exhaust would be the swapping back and forth every 2 years prior to emissions testing.
I'm at the age that I just don't want to go through the hassle nor the costs to pay to have someone do it.
Had this been 10 years ago...
Last edited by Jim McCombe; Apr 19, 2012 at 02:27 PM.
