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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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I am wondering why would I want to build a 383? Building a 383 limits RPM. It pushes the block to the limits(clearences and such). Several people that have built them have gone back to a standard stoke engine for dependability. On top of that is the increased cost. Where am I going wrong?
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Torque... the longer stroke of 3.75" crankshaft for the 383 makes more torque at lower RPM's than a shorter stroke engine. So, if you want to operate within a streetable RPM range a 383 has advantages over say a 350. But, there is a lot to consider here.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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typically the blocks are notched for clearance and I have not heard anyone having problems with their 383 rebuilds. In fact it has become almost a standard for 350 cubic inch rebuilds. More cubes makes more power, generally speaking.

The thing is, you usually want to start with a 4 bolt main or have a 2 bolt converted to a 4 bolt with the added stress of the longer stroke....383's make good power with the right intake/heads/cam

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Originally Posted by 87bob
I am wondering why would I want to build a 383? Building a 383 limits RPM. It pushes the block to the limits(clearences and such). Several people that have built them have gone back to a standard stoke engine for dependability. On top of that is the increased cost. Where am I going wrong?
Really?

I spin mine to 7000RPM, and I used it as a daily driver for three years without any issues that wouldn't have happened to any engine. It's still going strong at 450+ RWHP with more power in it waiting to be tapped.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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I don't think us mere mortals around here hit 383 rpm limits. I think if we are, we often are limited by the bottom end or valvetrain, and most builds here are almost overkill for the power levels. You can make great numbers with a 355 too though.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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Yeah, I agree, why build a 383 when you can stuff 400 some inches in a 350 block these days??? Granted its more stroke than poke but its still 400 inches and will spin right up..

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Drive a stroker then go back and drive a350 your question will be answered. Larger motor does everything better

Myth that long stroke motors dont rev or rev slower. Thats all in tuning.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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Drive a stroker then go back and drive a350 your question will be answered. Larger motor does everything better

Myth that long stroke motors dont rev or rev slower. Thats all in tuning.
I agree.
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There's no replacement for cubic displacement.
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Originally Posted by 87bob
Several people that have built them have gone back to a standard stoke engine for dependability.
Who would that be?

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On top of that is the increased cost.
If doing a FULL rebuild ;only extra cost is the >$170 for a stroker crank ( offset against the cost of getting your stock crank recoed )
and some labor to clearance the block.
You are up for the same cost for 350 rebuild parts and new pistons anyway
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Originally Posted by 87bob
I am wondering why would I want to build a 383? Building a 383 limits RPM. It pushes the block to the limits(clearences and such). Several people that have built them have gone back to a standard stoke engine for dependability. On top of that is the increased cost. Where am I going wrong?
In short, none of what you said is reality.

With that said, I do agree, I do not see the point in building a 383 these days considering how affordable the Dart SHP block is (and maybe other block manufacturers too) ..... its almost as cheap to build a 400-434 cubic inch motor nowadays....okay not quite, but it's closer than many think. Nowadays, for a little more, you can have a lot more.
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Originally Posted by Beach Bum
In short, none of what you said is reality.

With that said, I do agree, I do not see the point in building a 383 these days considering how affordable the Dart SHP block is (and maybe other block manufacturers too) ..... its almost as cheap to build a 400-434 cubic inch motor nowadays....okay not quite, but it's closer than many think. Nowadays, for a little more, you can have a lot more.
Except for us poor LTx folk...no one makes a beefed up aftermarket block for us...
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Originally Posted by Zix
Except for us poor LTx folk...no one makes a beefed up aftermarket block for us...
Bummer !

I thought I heard a year or two back that somebody was going to do a LTx aftermarket block..... too bad if it didn't happen.
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Originally Posted by 87bob
I am wondering why would I want to build a 383? Building a 383 limits RPM. It pushes the block to the limits(clearences and such). Several people that have built them have gone back to a standard stoke engine for dependability. On top of that is the increased cost. Where am I going wrong?
If you're afraid and don't like extra torque/power all the way from idle to redline, build a 350. Heck, de-stroke it to a 305 where the stock intake will became big enough!

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Originally Posted by Beach Bum
Bummer !

I thought I heard a year or two back that somebody was going to do a LTx aftermarket block..... too bad if it didn't happen.
I think Dart was looking into it, but it never went anywhere...not sure why, maybe the cost was just too much. There were a very few LeMans blocks built that could go out to 427ci, but finding one is next to impossible...and when you do the cost is astronomical (I did find one a while back).

For us is makes more sense to go with a big LSx engine if you want bigger then 396 or 401.

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"To quote my buddy Pete K"....Once you drive a 383 you will never go back to a 350....Truer words have never been spoken........WW
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If fuel prices are a concern to you, that might be a reason to stay with a 350.
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If fuel prices are a concern to you, that might be a reason to stay with a 350.
This is true. While some may tout a 383 with similar (or even better) MPG to stock (claiming better efficiency -- and they'd be right), the point most often missed is you can't idle a 383 with the same amount of fuel as a 350. And, if you drive much in city traffic, there's really no way a 383 will be as economical as a 350.

Course, you could also consider a V-6, 4-banger, or electric.
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Course, you could also consider a V-6, 4-banger, or electric.
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Originally Posted by 87bob
I am wondering why would I want to build a 383? Building a 383 limits RPM. It pushes the block to the limits(clearences and such). Several people that have built them have gone back to a standard stoke engine for dependability. On top of that is the increased cost. Where am I going wrong?
Not sure where you got any of your information but my stock block, stock head (work done to heads) LT4 based 383 makes ~500hp, easily spins past 7k, and has survived more abuse than 99.999% of Corvette engines out there.

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