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Old May 21, 2002 | 04:24 PM
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I am looking at various alternatives to stiffen up a coupe, and the convertible x braces come to mind. Any problem with ZF 6 speed clearance, or header clearance, or bolt in fit on a coupe?

How much would it likely help?

How much do they weigh?

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Old May 21, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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I believe that the bolt holes may already be there. Keep in mind that you ground clearance will be lessened with this installed. Convertibles rode a little higherfrom the factory to compensate for this.
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Old May 22, 2002 | 01:49 AM
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I remember someone on the forum adding the X on the coupe. Seems that only one set of holes exist. He had to punch the frame for the other pair of holes. I think Verts ride is something like 13/16" higher.
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Old May 22, 2002 | 02:28 AM
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I remember someone on the forum adding the X on the coupe. Seems that only one set of holes exist. He had to punch the frame for the other pair of holes. I think Verts ride is something like 13/16" higher.
Hey, I resemble that remark! :)
Yes it makes a significant improvement. I also installed the camber brace to improve things even more.
What year is your vette? If it's an 87 or later then you already have the front holes there; then you need to punch and tap the holes for the back. By punching instead of drilling you get more metal threaded.
However if you have an 86 like me....then you also have to fab. some l type brackets for the front of the brace to bolt to.
As for clearance; I've already lowered mine so yes, it does scrape on speed bumps! But oh well such is the cost...I just wish the x-brace would take all the rock hits instead of my oilpan! :eek:
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Old May 22, 2002 | 03:52 AM
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When you say "punch it" what does this mean? I was told to drill them. Please help get pointed in the right direction.
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Old May 22, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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When you say "punch it" what does this mean? I was told to drill them. Please help get pointed in the right direction.
"Punching" the holes is necessary to get enough metal surface for tapping the threads. Think of it as pushing the frame metal up and into the sides of the hole. Convertible frames already have capture nuts on the inside of the frame rail. If you simply drill through the frame, there won't be enough material to create the threads. As I recall, the bolts that hold the brace to the frame are fairly good size like 3/8".

Also, the brace ends themselves do not attach directly to the frame. Each corner has spacers for each of the 2 bolts and the spacers are different heights front to back. You will also need to fabricate plates to install in the floor pan with bolts that protrude through the pan to the brace. Each leg of the brace has holes in it to accept these bolts. I think there are 2 per leg. These bolts and plates are what gives the stiffness to the car as it secures the brace to both the body pan and frame rails.


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Old May 22, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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I'm going to let you guys know first, we are working on an aftermarket cross-brace to tie the Coupe's frame rails together. With our race schedule getting in the way, it is probally 30 days away from production, but the proto-typing is really great.

I wish I could give you some more details and pictures, but I'm not quite ready yet. One thing for sure, our Forum Customers will see it first. :yesnod:

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Old May 22, 2002 | 03:40 PM
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I'm going to let you guys know first, we are working on an aftermarket cross-brace to tie the Coupe's frame rails together. With our race schedule getting in the way, it is probally 30 days away from production, but the proto-typing is really great.

I wish I could give you some more details and pictures, but I'm not quite ready yet. One thing for sure, our Forum Customers will see it first. :yesnod:

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Old May 22, 2002 | 08:51 PM
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Alright now you've done it. Now I gotta lower the beast. :rolleyes:
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Old May 22, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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I installed one. I punched/tapped the rear bolts, made a stud plate for the center mounts and installed them under the rug. I noticed the car is stiffer but haven't drove it with the top off yet. I haven't scraped anywhere yet from the reduced ground clearance. It clears my Longtube headers, but just touched my Bullet cat on the pass side. I just spaced it out with a 1/4" thick plate.
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Old May 22, 2002 | 10:52 PM
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I wish I could give you some more details and pictures, but I'm not quite ready yet. One thing for sure, our Forum Customers will see it first. :yesnod:

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I love this guy, I can't wait to get his entire setup :cheers:
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Old May 22, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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Dave,
Will you company be at Carlisle?... Will the brace stiffen the coupe with the targa top off? Thanks...
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:46 AM
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Dave,
Will you company be at Carlisle?... Will the brace stiffen the coupe with the targa top off? Thanks...
Sorry, we won't make it to Carlisle. Racing schedule won't let it work out.

The main idea for the Cross-brace is to stiffen the coupe with the top removed. :yesnod:

Dave
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Will the brace stiffen the coupe with the targa top off? Thanks...[/QUOTE]
The weather finally warmed up enough to take the top off since I installed the convt x-brace on mine-yes, it's makes a world of difference with the top off!
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