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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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Well i finally got around to putting the exaust on my 94 lt1.Exotic muscle with full corsa exhaust cats deleted what do i need to do with the o2 sensor that was behind the passanger cat.This thing feels like i lost bottom end power big time And running like pure crap .Nothing else was done the car .HELPPPPPP!

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Very simple, looks like you did an O2 sensor delete and have the plug hanging back there. Do you have the engine light lit?

You can have the post O2 sensor tuned out by a tuner.

I've been next to cats delete Vettes and the smell is horrible. I recommend for you to install hi-flo cats and any muffler shop can weld on O2 sensor plugs.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kleptopigdog
Well i finally got around to putting the exaust on my 94 lt1.Exotic muscle with full corsa exhaust cats deleted what do i need to do with the o2 sensor that was behind the passanger cat.This thing feels like i lost bottom end power big time And running like pure crap .Nothing else was done the car .HELPPPPPP!
The second o2 sensor on a '94 does nothing. It was there only for field testing purposes as the transition was made to OBD II starting in 1996. Even with OBD II, the aft o2 sensors do nothing except report on the performance of the cats. They have nothing to do with fueling.

I'll guess that you have a couple plug wires crossed or not on all the way. Also make sure you didn't crack a plug when you were installing the headers.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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I've been next to cats delete Vettes and the smell is horrible.
Apparently you never lived in the pre-cat era.
Rotten egg smell from a cat isn't 'normal'.
What you smell now is how it should be.
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
The second o2 sensor on a '94 does nothing. It was there only for field testing purposes as the transition was made to OBD II starting in 1996. Even with OBD II, the aft o2 sensors do nothing except report on the performance of the cats. They have nothing to do with fueling.

I'll guess that you have a couple plug wires crossed or not on all the way. Also make sure you didn't crack a plug when you were installing the headers.
Jim are you sure? In my 95 when I installed the shorties, the whole exhaust system was removed, on re-installation I didnt plug the O2 to the wiring and the engine light was on. I know 94 and 95 are different, but just wondering if there would be a difference.

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Apparently you never lived in the pre-cat era.
Rotten egg smell from a cat isn't 'normal'.
What you smell now is how it should be.
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Originally Posted by IAFF alumni
Apparently you never lived in the pre-cat era.
Rotten egg smell from a cat isn't 'normal'.
What you smell now is how it should be.


A properly tuned car with bullet cats doesn't burn the eyes at idle and it certainly doesn't smell like rotten eggs (which is a sign of a faulty cat and/or the need for a tune). All the OP is doing with no cats is making added noise while gaining zero power.

...and yes I have Random Tech bullet cats on mine with EM long tubes and Corsa exhaust and no, it doesn't smell like rotten eggs.
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plugs good ,firing order correct .Just took it for a spin around the block runs horrible.I've always been a fan of converters [took them off before when i put flow masters on it ,took it to the muffler shop the next day and put them back on]This time every thing i read on this system said no loss with out them .Any way any more ideas .No codes thrown.??????????
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Also idles very nice ,revs up without any hesatation in park .
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
The second o2 sensor on a '94 does nothing. It was there only for field testing purposes as the transition was made to OBD II starting in 1996. Even with OBD II, the aft o2 sensors do nothing except report on the performance of the cats. They have nothing to do with fueling.

I'll guess that you have a couple plug wires crossed or not on all the way. Also make sure you didn't crack a plug when you were installing the headers.
That is not correct, my rear O2 sensors are all I need to allow the computer to adjust my fuel trims on my OBDII computer. I can't comment on a 94 though.
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isn't at least one O2 sensor a necessary component for any computer controlled car ? i.e it allows the computer to run in a closed loop mode ? otherwise the computer has no way of measuring fuel demand to load and defaults to the open loop or "limp home" mode (which sounds very much like your car). the OBII cars have two sensors at each cat; one before and one after each cat; the second O2 sensor to allow measuring of the efficiency of the cat itself. Am I wrong ?
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Originally Posted by Zix
That is not correct, my rear O2 sensors are all I need to allow the computer to adjust my fuel trims on my OBDII computer. I can't comment on a 94 though.
Only if you plugged them into the forward o2 connectors.

The aft o2s are for OBD II compliance only. They verify cat operation. When you watch the forward O2 sensors on a scanner or using logging software, you see the voltage swings. The aft o2 sensor voltage is basically flat.

I ran my '96 for quite sometime with only the forward o2 sensors. Ultimately I added o2 sensor bungs and sensors aft of my bullet cats so that the cat emissions flags would set in the PCM and I could pass the OBD II plug in emissions test. Prior to that, I had to do the sniffer test (and passed).
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Originally Posted by PLRX
Jim are you sure? In my 95 when I installed the shorties, the whole exhaust system was removed, on re-installation I didnt plug the O2 to the wiring and the engine light was on. I know 94 and 95 are different, but just wondering if there would be a difference.
Hmmm...It's not monitored by the PCM and there's not a bank 2 sensor 2 code for '94s & '95s so it shouldn't light the SES lamp. I'm traveling, so I'll try to remember to dig through my notes when I get home a week.
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
Hmmm...It's not monitored by the PCM and there's not a bank 2 sensor 2 code for '94s & '95s so it shouldn't light the SES lamp. I'm traveling, so I'll try to remember to dig through my notes when I get home a week.
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Could the new exhaust system have eliminated too much back pressure? I've heard that a certain amount of back pressure is beneficial to some motors, but I don't know which types or if it's even true. For all I know it could just be one of those rumors that's always been passed around.
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Even thought the SES CE light is not lit it may still spit out a code. I would take it to AutoZOne or mechanic and scan for codes.

When the headers/exhaust was installed it did something mechanical. Plug wires seated. Plug wires crossed(easy to do). Wires to 02 sensors damaged or fried.
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