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On my 90 the oil temp sensor has 3 wires coming off it. Ground, one to the gauge and one to the ECM. I am replacing all the gauges with aftermarket analog and got new sending units with them. My question is, what does the wire to the ECM do? Is this required for the engine to run? If I use the OEM sensor do you think it will display the proper temp on thr new gauge?
Hmm my '88 had a single blade connector sender above the oil filter. BTW it was difficult to fit an aftermarket oil temp sender there so I used the back not bottom of the oil pan. When the engine was out it could have been re-sized perhaps.
The only benefit I can see of the ECM having oil temp would be to read it in a data log. I am not experienced with '90 code so someone else will have to chime in on if the ECM actually uses it and will set an error code.
OEM sender will not output correctly to an aftermarket gauge. I've tried and they are calibrated differently.
Hmm my '88 had a single blade connector sender above the oil filter. BTW it was difficult to fit an aftermarket oil temp sender there so I used the back not bottom of the oil pan. When the engine was out it could have been re-sized perhaps.
The only benefit I can see of the ECM having oil temp would be to read it in a data log. I am not experienced with '90 code so someone else will have to chime in on if the ECM actually uses it and will set an error code.
OEM sender will not output correctly to an aftermarket gauge. I've tried and they are calibrated differently.
Thanks Andrew! Datalogging makes sense, and good to know it won't work with the aftermarket gauge. If I have to I guess I can install both sending units somewhere.
I know that on the LT1 cars - the ECM would go into a "safety mode" when the oil temp hit 300 F. Power would be restricted (pulling timing), both cooling fans would run full time etc. etc. Not sure if the same is true on a 90, but it's quite possible.
Can anyone scan in a wiring diagram of the oil temp circuit for a '90? My '89 just had 1 wire to the gauge. I installed the Vetteaid kit and had no adverse effects.
Thanks for the image, but I also have that page someone scanned for me before. The only thing it says is "Oil Sensor Input" it doesn't say what it does with that information and/or if it is required.
We need to see the wiring diagram for your ECM. Also, the block that says "See engine data sensors" may also help, we just need the 8th number of your VIN to get the correct page.
We need to see the wiring diagram for your ECM. Also, the block that says "See engine data sensors" may also help, we just need the 8th number of your VIN to get the correct page.
I will be with the car tomorrow so I can grab the VIN.
The oil temperature sensor is above the filter and has one blade. The oil pressure sensor is on the block behind the intake manifold to the driver's side of the distributor. This has three wires.
The oil temperature sensor is above the filter and has one blade. The oil pressure sensor is on the block behind the intake manifold to the driver's side of the distributor. This has three wires.
Yes the pressure switch also has 3 wires. Apparently the temp sensor changed to a 3 wire sensor starting in '90. This is the sensor in my old block:
The sensor behind the distributor is a combination of oil pressure sensor and oil pressure switch. The sensor goes to the dashboard oil pressure gauge. The oil pressure switch bypasses the fuel pump relay so you'll have fuel pressure if the relay doesn't work for whatever reason.
In earlier L98s there was a separate oil pressure sender and oil pressure switch.
The sensor behind the distributor is a combination of oil pressure sensor and oil pressure switch. The sensor goes to the dashboard oil pressure gauge. The oil pressure switch bypasses the fuel pump relay so you'll have fuel pressure if the relay doesn't work for whatever reason.
In earlier L98s there was a separate oil pressure sender and oil pressure switch.
Originally Posted by Dyno Don L.
Those 3 wires should be battery, fuel pump and oil sender to gauge.
You guys are talking about the OIL PRESSURE SWITCH. I am talking about the OIL TEMP SENSOR. Different location.
Originally Posted by rodj
IIRC ,
I remember reading on here that the ECM monitors oil temps as part of it's calculations for bringing up the Change Oil Light
That would be good. I dont have the change oil light anymore. Sounds like I am OK and the engine will still run?
Originally Posted by vetteoz
Doesn't add any info , just shows those wires grounded in the ECM
As shown in the '90 circuit diagram I posted above
Sounds like I am OK and the engine will still run?
I have not seen anything in your '727 or '730 MAP ECM's (the identical F-Body version ) programming that has any requirement for a oil temp input
as part of it's engine operation
I believe in 1990GM combined the oil temperature and pressure sender into one unit and mounted it over the oil filter. When I helped install the FIRST intake on an 87 vert, the canister type pressure sender would not fit behind the distributor so we converted to the three wire temperature/pressure sender. It was pretty easy to do, and when I drop my new 355 in my 88 next month I'm going to convert mine. It makes changing the pressure sender much easier.
Last edited by Corvette40; Sep 1, 2012 at 11:13 PM.
I believe in 1990GM combined the oil temperature and pressure sender into one unit and mounted it over the oil filter. When I helped install the FIRST intake on an 87 vert, the canister type pressure sender would not fit behind the distributor so we converted to the three wire temperature/pressure sender. It was pretty easy to do, and when I drop my new 355 in my 88 next month I'm going to convert mine. It makes changing the pressure sender much easier.
The Corvette still has a separate oil pressure switch/sender that has 3 wires right next to the distributor. As mentioned before, the wire to the ECM was to monitor oil life, not for pressure.