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Old 02-18-2013, 12:06 AM
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will 85 calipers fit and work on a 92 axle?
both are rear calipers.
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Originally Posted by ccpanel
will 85 calipers fit and work on a 92 axle?
both are rear calipers.
No - an 85 uses a drum/shoe in rotor e-brake and the '92 has an internal e-brake actuator using just the rotor surface. What exactly are you attempting to do? I see a "suburban" in your profile!

In '50 I thought they were still a "Carryall"

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You will have to use the later calipers that uses the brake pad as the parking brake

I think 1935 was the first year for the "Carryall Suburban" and sometime in the mid-late 1940's, GM dropped the "Carryall" part of the name.
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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
You will have to use the later calipers that uses the brake pad as the parking brake

I think 1935 was the first year for the "Carryall Suburban" and sometime in the mid-late 1940's, GM dropped the "Carryall" part of the name.
1936 first year.
longest model ever-still running too.

GMC took up the carryall name for a while off/on. also international had one and so did plymouth.

mines a 50-the sheetmetal part
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No - an 85 uses a drum/shoe in rotor e-brake and the '92 has an internal e-brake actuator using just the rotor surface. What exactly are you attempting to do? I see a "suburban" in your profile!

In '50 I thought they were still a "Carryall"
picked up what I think is a 92 rear axle and my 85 16" wheels dont fit-caliper clearance.

I wanna run skinny 16" wheels on it when installed. like a 16x6 wheel with 215/85-16 tires. long story.

any way by using part numbers to find out exact year of the axle?
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Originally Posted by ccpanel
picked up what I think is a 92 rear axle and my 85 16" wheels dont fit-caliper clearance.

I wanna run skinny 16" wheels on it when installed. like a 16x6 wheel with 215/85-16 tires. long story.

any way by using part numbers to find out exact year of the axle?
You're using a complete Corvette rear ISA? On the aluminum forging we'll call a "knuckle" there will be a casting ID #. On the 88+ it's on the surface between the shock absorber and the lower control arm.

The rear caliper either has an e-brake actuator built in or it does NOT!

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In this image item #40 is used in 88+ applications and is NOT present in '87 and earlier. The earlier caliper attaches to a backing plate that also part of the e-brake shoe and hardware.

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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
The rear caliper either has an e-brake actuator built in or it does NOT!

Disregard the red arrow


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Disregard the red arrow


Thats the one off of teh non-85 rear axle.

I know the one is an 85 for sure being as I tore that car down myself.

this late model one supposedly was crashed at 10,000 miles and parted out by this guys nieghbor and he sold the axle to me after storing it for years.
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Originally Posted by ccpanel
I know the one is an 85 for sure being as I tore that car down myself..
As WVZR-1 noted above ; the brakes look completely different.
Early cars have the park brake cable through the backing plate to the internal park drum



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okay.
can I swap outer knuckles to get early brakes?
or alternately-does anyone know if I can fit a 16" rim on 88-up calipers?

is there an aftermarket or alternate caliper with a shorter height?
This is by no means going to be a race car so I dont need race brakes.
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Originally Posted by ccpanel
can I swap outer knuckles to get early brakes?
or alternately-does anyone know if I can fit a 16" rim on 88-up calipers?
If you are only talking about a diff swap then you can use the 92 center ( batwing / diffhead ) with the 85 outer parts
88 base cars came with 16" rims on those calipers

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Originally Posted by ccpanel
okay.
can I swap outer knuckles to get early brakes?
or alternately-does anyone know if I can fit a 16" rim on 88-up calipers?

is there an aftermarket or alternate caliper with a shorter height?
This is by no means going to be a race car so I dont need race brakes.
"vetteoz" has responded it appears while my fingers were "thinking"!!!

You could use from the '92 if you wanted the batwing and differential, the half-shafts are the same. You can't disassemble the hubs, knuckles, parking brake etc to mix and match. The tread width of the rears are different. Will your 16" wheels fit the later model? I'd suggest you find someonr with a newer than '88 Corvette and do a test fit of your wheel on it. If you've a complete '92 hub to hub it would seem you've already done that.

It seemed that you hinted in your original post that the '85 was already installed. It seems now maybe NONE of either is installed. Maybe you can explain!

The fact that an '88 wheel option was a 16" doesn't mean YOUR 16" wheel that you mention earlier will fit. That's why I suggest a test fit.

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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
"vetteoz" has responded it appears while my fingers were "thinking"!!!

You could use from the '92 if you wanted the batwing and differential, the half-shafts are the same. You can't disassemble the hubs, knuckles, parking brake etc to mix and match. The tread width of the rears are different. Will your 16" wheels fit the later model? I'd suggest you find someonr with a newer than '88 Corvette and do a test fit of your wheel on it. If you've a complete '92 hub to hub it would seem you've already done that.

It seemed that you hinted in your original post that the '85 was already installed. It seems now maybe NONE of either is installed. Maybe you can explain!

The fact that an '88 wheel option was a 16" doesn't mean YOUR 16" wheel that you mention earlier will fit. That's why I suggest a test fit.

85 is sitting 100% OEM intact underneath my 50 frame-just sitting there its got a 36 center. (I have a spare 36 and batwing too)
9x(seller told me it was a 98-not likely) is sitting on the ground next to it.
the only way I got my 85 wheels on it was to remove calipers.

I will most likely use the 85 as its narrower but install the 44 out of the 9x. I will just use the 36 in the 9x setup and put it under another project especially since it might not let me run the 16x6 rims I wanna run.

Thanks for all the clarification!
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Originally Posted by ccpanel
85 is sitting 100% OEM intact underneath my 50 frame-just sitting there its got a 36 center. (I have a spare 36 and batwing too)
9x(seller told me it was a 98-not likely) is sitting on the ground next to it.
the only way I got my 85 wheels on it was to remove calipers.

I will most likely use the 85 as its narrower but install the 44 out of the 9x. I will just use the 36 in the 9x setup and put it under another project especially since it might not let me run the 16x6 rims I wanna run.

Thanks for all the clarification!
The easiest way I guess to ID what you have is on the bottom of what is believed to be a D44 is four lines of information etched into the housing, not the bat-wing/cover.

Like this:

It can be sorted further from there!

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