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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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What's the difference from idle-3500 cam oppose to a 1,500-3,500rpm cam? What's better?
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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Wouldnt use either

what are you looking for?
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Originally Posted by 90TorqueMonster
What's better?
How long is a piece of string?
Without a lot more info as to it's intended usage any comment is worthless
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Well I'm just tryin to see what this means, I brought up a thread about me selecting a cam but I. Haven't gotten anything. Vetteoz put in his 2 cents and a lot of people.

What I'm looking for is power in the lower rpms. Pulls hard in the low range I guess below 3,500, I cruise on the street not so much the highway.

I'm not anxious to get a cam I love my stock cam, it has what I need. I'm justtrying to understand what the difference from idle-x,xxx and the difference from 1,500-x,xxx
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 90TorqueMonster
I brought up a thread about me selecting a cam but I. Haven't gotten anything.
Vetteoz put in his 2 cents
You got 2 cent worth because that is all you spent as far as giving out relevant info.

IF you are talking about a cam for a rev restricted TPI engine then you would be looking for something that matches the rev range of a TPI intake so 4500ish rpm max
A TPI intake pulls very well down low so you don't need to worry about off idle so much and possibly be looking at a cam with maybe a 1500 -4500 operating range

Originally Posted by 90TorqueMonster
What I'm looking for is power in the lower rpms.
You are unlikely to improve on that power range
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 11:25 PM
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The idle-3000/3500 type cams are similar to mid 80s TBI truck/van motors. About as puny as they come dont bother with them.
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 90TorqueMonster
What I'm looking for is power in the lower rpms. Pulls hard in the low range I guess below 3,500, I cruise on the street not so much the highway.
I think the info you may be looking for, can be found on this link. Just ignore the word Viper.

http://www.viperclub.org/howto/faqs/...-gear-swap.php
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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 90TorqueMonster
.......What I'm looking for is power in the lower rpms. Pulls hard in the low range I guess below 3,500......
I got a stock LT1 cam from an Impala SS (different from F-body or Corvette LT1 cams).

This cam is designed to get a 4300 LB beast out of the hole and moving.....I'm guessin' it'll get a 3400 LB Corvette moving, too !

PM me if interested.

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Like I said, I'm not on the market looking for a cam, just trying to understand the difference from "idle" and "1,500".

for all I know I could be looking for a torquey tow-like cam
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Originally Posted by 90TorqueMonster
Like I said, I'm not on the market looking for a cam, just trying to understand the difference from "idle" and "1,500".

for all I know I could be looking for a torquey tow-like cam
A cam designed for idle to "x" rpm operation is designed to cover things like low-rpm pulling or parking lot trolling, etc... 1500 rpms is high enough that you COULD be ignoring some common "driveability" characteristics by choosing it. For example, in a ZF car you're running below 1500 rpms using 6th gear at 65mph.

With that 1500-XXXX rpm cam you might not notice overt affects but you'll most likely have a bit less power/response compared to an idle-XXXX cam. You might feel I tiny bit of cam surge at low rpm hwy driving. And, you'd most likely get worse MPG with the 1500 cam. (Street driving spends a lot of time at idle/off-idle conditions.)

Lift, duration, overlap, and ramp rates can affect low-rpm driveability.
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Always broke it down for me Gregg thank you!
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Is there a roller cam on the market that (similiar to the idle-xxxx) that can increase torque down low for the l98
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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 90TorqueMonster
Is there a roller cam on the market that (similiar to the idle-xxxx) that can increase torque down low for the l98
The LT1 cam from a B-Body (Impala SS) and the cam from the GMPP 383 crate engine.

Both these cams were designed with low-RPM torque in mind.

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If your serious about the 3500-4000 rpm max rev limit, your best choices for improvement for downlow grunt is CUBES..... Increased stroke will increase your low end grunt...or BOOST (boost will make your engine feel bigger) Nitrous may be another option however, itrous gets pricey for daily use.


I suggest you ditch the 3500 rpm max and build an engine with a wider power band and install proper gearing (and proper stall converter if you have an A4) In the long haul you will have a better performing vehicle.

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what are the specs of this B-body cam?
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IF I go with this cam, will my prom have to be tuned?

I hear these cams have 111 degree LSA, or is that computer friendly?
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A lot of claims such as idle to 3500 rpm or 1500 to 3500 are marketing labels. A lot of times, manufacturers will make claims to appeal to as many people as possible. You have to look at the application and specs. That doesn't answer all the questions and there are some variables such as lobe profiles or ramp rates, but it will give you a platform to compare cams so you will be comparing apples to apples.
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Originally Posted by 383vett
A lot of claims such as idle to 3500 rpm or 1500 to 3500 are marketing labels. A lot of times, manufacturers will make claims to appeal to as many people as possible. You have to look at the application and specs. That doesn't answer all the questions and there are some variables such as lobe profiles or ramp rates, but it will give you a platform to compare cams so you will be comparing apples to apples.
I gotcha ya..

I STILL dont know alot about cams hahaha, just the max lift on my rockers, and a tighter lsa creates more torque and a wider one creates more on top end.I just want an honest opinion, I dont mind keeping my cam I have in there now(stock).

Will this B-body LT cam give me MORE torque down low than my stock?
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Originally Posted by 90TorqueMonster
I gotcha ya..

I STILL dont know alot about cams hahaha, just the max lift on my rockers, and a tighter lsa creates more torque and a wider one creates more on top end.I just want an honest opinion, I dont mind keeping my cam I have in there now(stock).

Will this B-body LT cam give me MORE torque down low than my stock?
Factory LTX Camshaft Specifications**:
1992 Y-body: 205/207 0.451/0.450 lift 117 LSA
1993-1995 Y-body, F-body: 202/207 0.450/0.460 lift 116 LSA
1994-1996 B-bodies (including L99 4.3L): 191/196 0.418/0.430 lift 111 LSA
1996 Y-body, 1996-1997 F-body: 200/207 0.447/0.459 lift 117 LSA
1996 Y-body, F-body LT4: 203/210 0.476/0.479 lift 115 LSA



VS your 1990 cam


202/207 with .413/.428 lift and 115 LSA.

If you step up to bigger ratio rocker arms with you're current cam you'd be pretty close to the 1996 low end TORQUE MOSTER LT4 cam specs...

Mike

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Originally Posted by 90TorqueMonster
I gotcha ya..

I STILL dont know alot about cams hahaha, just the max lift on my rockers, and a tighter lsa creates more torque and a wider one creates more on top end.I just want an honest opinion, I dont mind keeping my cam I have in there now(stock).

Will this B-body LT cam give me MORE torque down low than my stock?
You're driving a Corvette, not a tow truck. Get a healthy cam with good torque, high hp and a good lope.
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