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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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My 1992 is probably due for some kind of fuel system cleansing. Does anyone have suggestions as to what kind of fuel system cleaners to use? Thanks Forum!
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I'd send them off to be tested and cleaned. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother. Actually, since they are original and Multecs, I'd just dump them for Bosch III. I don't throw good money after bad by trying to clean injectors with "cleaner in a can". IIRC, FIC does it for $15 per injector.
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There is NO point in spending $200 and a day of your time to repair/clean what is well known to be junk to start with, when you CAN buy new technology Bosch-III injectors, all the rail O-rings AND the runner/plenum gaskets for $250 or LESS !

Besides, nobody rebuilds/cleans Muletics....they use them as fishing weights.

Then, you don't need fuel system cleaner. With Corvettes there are FEW repairs in a bottle that will do anything... When you feel like you need the fuel system cleaned, that means you need fuel system repairs. Pumps, injectors, regulators all are wear parts.

To do some fuel system maintenance you can add a few oz of Marvel Mystery oil to the gas. This will loosen gum & varnish and lube the valves and injectors. The car will respond by running better for a few thousand miles. The cheap blended fuels of today will eventually leave their trademark deposits again and gum up the works. Regular use of MM or similar top end lubes will prevent damage to seals and O-rings.

I add a qt of MM 100 miles before oil changes and flush out all form of goo from the engine. It does make a difference in the gas as well.
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Originally Posted by leesvet
they use them as fishing weights.

Then, you don't need fuel system cleaner. With Corvettes there are FEW repairs in a bottle that will do anything... When you feel like you need the fuel system cleaned, that means you need fuel system repairs. Pumps, injectors, regulators all are wear parts.
For what sort of fish? Salmon? Perch?

Pumps tend to last quite a bit. I changed mine because I wanted more fuel and the pump was getting old. Regulator, when it breaks or the spring gets weak, time to send it off to the circular file. As to injectors, I send mine out for cleaning every 3 years. ATVs, Jetskis, Motorcycles and Cars. For my diesel truck and car, every 100K. This way I know how long they can last under normal conditions before they need to be cleaned.
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 12:58 AM
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There is NO point in spending $200 and a day of your time to repair/clean what is well known to be junk to start with, when you CAN buy new technology Bosch-III injectors, all the rail O-rings AND the runner/plenum gaskets for $250 or LESS !

Besides, nobody rebuilds/cleans Muletics....they use them as fishing weights.

Then, you don't need fuel system cleaner. With Corvettes there are FEW repairs in a bottle that will do anything... When you feel like you need the fuel system cleaned, that means you need fuel system repairs. Pumps, injectors, regulators all are wear parts.

To do some fuel system maintenance you can add a few oz of Marvel Mystery oil to the gas. This will loosen gum & varnish and lube the valves and injectors. The car will respond by running better for a few thousand miles. The cheap blended fuels of today will eventually leave their trademark deposits again and gum up the works. Regular use of MM or similar top end lubes will prevent damage to seals and O-rings.

I add a qt of MM 100 miles before oil changes and flush out all form of goo from the engine. It does make a difference in the gas as well.

The old Multecs don't seem to like the cool new fuels we use these days. Mine went out pretty hard and it's fairly common. No real use trying to clean them.

I would just go ahead and do a nice big tune on it:
Spark plugs and wires
Injectors
Fuel filter
In-tank fuel filter (that stupid sock is generally plretty deteriorated. I would order a new one)
New injectors
Full oil flush
Full coolant flush
Trans fluid and filter

If you want to go a little further, I can suggest the following as well:
Fuel pump (it is probably fine)
Fuel pressure regulator (is usually okay, smell the vacuum tube. If there is gas replace it)
Distro cap/rotor (look for pitts and burns)
You can do the TPS and IACV too. But they are pretty stable.

Also, do a thorough check of the entire wireing harness. You never know what might come up.
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I gave mine to a local tuner for cleaning. They flow tested them, cleaned them and flow tested again. They read exactly the same before and after cleaning.

I've heard that the gasoline suppliers put "magic stuff" in their gasoline to clean the injectors and anything you add is a waste of money. I've never seen any difference "before" vs. "after" with various cleaners I've used.

That said, I've seen several posts that reported that the fuel gauge started working better after adding Techron fuel injector cleaner to the tank. Apparently deposits build up on the fuel level sender. I solved my C5 "fuel level goes to empty" problem by NOT using Arco gas (the station is very close to me so it was convenient to go there).
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
I gave mine to a local tuner for cleaning. They flow tested them, cleaned them and flow tested again. They read exactly the same before and after cleaning.

I've heard that the gasoline suppliers put "magic stuff" in their gasoline to clean the injectors and anything you add is a waste of money. I've never seen any difference "before" vs. "after" with various cleaners I've used.

That said, I've seen several posts that reported that the fuel gauge started working better after adding Techron fuel injector cleaner to the tank. Apparently deposits build up on the fuel level sender. I solved my C5 "fuel level goes to empty" problem by NOT using Arco gas (the station is very close to me so it was convenient to go there).
How long since they were cleaned? Mine do take some cleaning every 3 years or that seems to be the pattern where they do have some difference in the "before and after". I do my diesel injectors ever 100K and that definitely needs it but that is another story.
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How long since they were cleaned? Mine do take some cleaning every 3 years or that seems to be the pattern where they do have some difference in the "before and after". I do my diesel injectors ever 100K and that definitely needs it but that is another story.
I have had this Corvette for a couple of years. From the sounds of the Forum, I should go with some new parts. The Bosch injectors seem to be the consensus. How many lbs would be appropriate? I wouldn't mind a little more performance of course!
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Originally Posted by Den14
I have had this Corvette for a couple of years. From the sounds of the Forum, I should go with some new parts. The Bosch injectors seem to be the consensus. How many lbs would be appropriate? I wouldn't mind a little more performance of course!
I'd say you should get stock replacements unless you are re-programming the ECM. In my case I have 42pph injectors but I have programming to support the modifications I made. I am assuming you do not so if you put in say 42pph injectors, you will increase the POTENTIAL for more power if you have the supporting mods. OTOH, since you do not, it will not do much for you except to cause a flooding condition or a very rich condition. You see, the ECM is thinking it is stock size so it will set the pulse width for 24pph not knowing that at say 42pph, it will dump more fuel for that same pulse width.

I'd get a stock reman set unless you are tuning the ECM, in which case, the tuner will tell you what to get.
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Old injectors are like old tennis shoes; you can buy new laces, and new insoles, but they still beat up.

Buy new injectors.
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Originally Posted by PLRX
Old injectors are like old tennis shoes; you can buy new laces, and new insoles, but they still beat up.

Buy new injectors.
Some guys like to buy soiled panties.
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Originally Posted by leesvet


There is NO point in spending $200 and a day of your time to repair/clean what is well known to be junk to start with, when you CAN buy new technology Bosch-III injectors, all the rail O-rings AND the runner/plenum gaskets for $250 or LESS !

Besides, nobody rebuilds/cleans Muletics....they use them as fishing weights.

Then, you don't need fuel system cleaner. With Corvettes there are FEW repairs in a bottle that will do anything... When you feel like you need the fuel system cleaned, that means you need fuel system repairs. Pumps, injectors, regulators all are wear parts.

To do some fuel system maintenance you can add a few oz of Marvel Mystery oil to the gas. This will loosen gum & varnish and lube the valves and injectors. The car will respond by running better for a few thousand miles. The cheap blended fuels of today will eventually leave their trademark deposits again and gum up the works. Regular use of MM or similar top end lubes will prevent damage to seals and O-rings.

I add a qt of MM 100 miles before oil changes and flush out all form of goo from the engine. It does make a difference in the gas as well.
where can I get bosch III gaskets/etc...for 250 bucks????
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Originally Posted by playsdixie
where can I get bosch III gaskets/etc...for 250 bucks????
http://fuelinjectorconnection.com/sh...php?groupid=72
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thank you....i'll be getting a set..
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Dixie...

The forum rule of thumb regarding fuel injectors
is ..."call Jon"

You will see some questions and the only response will be to.....
....Call Jon.

FIC is the gold standard for parts and service. Jon is the expert and can talk you thru mods and upgrades concerning fuel injection. he's good people. Look for his youtube videos on injectors and servicing. Very informative.
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