DERM query..
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Racer
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DERM query..
I don't have a 1991 FSM.
If sir/air bag deploys is it necessary to replace the DERM?
Are there any other procedures needed to bring vehicle back to safe, driveable condition with respect to this system apart from replacing air bag in the steer wheel?
Thx
If sir/air bag deploys is it necessary to replace the DERM?
Are there any other procedures needed to bring vehicle back to safe, driveable condition with respect to this system apart from replacing air bag in the steer wheel?
Thx
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Shoot me a PM if you need info on anything else. Not an expert by any means but I can copy pages of the FSM for you if any more are needed.
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If I'm not mistaken both the DERM and sensors are not longer available from GM, but you may be able to get them from salvage yards if you need them. I tried to find a sensor last fall I think, no dice. It's going to be interesting to see how these cars are treated by the States when these parts no longer available and the cars can't pass inspection without them.
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The terminology and the "required statements" in the FSM are a CYA statement I believe.
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If I'm not mistaken both the DERM and sensors are not longer available from GM, but you may be able to get them from salvage yards if you need them. I tried to find a sensor last fall I think, no dice. It's going to be interesting to see how these cars are treated by the States when these parts no longer available and the cars can't pass inspection without them.
Rental fleets were delivered with a "side curtain delete" option and that created quite a commotion when the rental fleets put these cars on their "for sale" lots or they were sold at auction without disclosure. I believe there was a "disclosure" mandate in some states but not all. It's not done that way now.
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I scanned the pages for you. PM me with your e-mail address and I will send them to you. I also scanned the table of contents for the SIR Diagnostic section. If you want to see the 70 pages that it contains then let me know as I will have to take that heavy-azzed book to the copy center and then charge you for the copy and mailing costs.
It is just too much for my little desk top unit to deal with.
I'm retired now so don't mind spending the time to help a brother out though. Don't be afraid to ask as others here have done even more for me in the past.
It is just too much for my little desk top unit to deal with.
I'm retired now so don't mind spending the time to help a brother out though. Don't be afraid to ask as others here have done even more for me in the past.
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Thanks to Ron for the scans.
I still am not sure that the DERM needs replaced. It appears that only the sensors need replaced after a deployment.
I need to know for sure as parts for these cars are not easily found in So Australia.
Maybe I will replace the sensors with the air bag and see which error codes come up.
Thx to all who have taken an interest.
I still am not sure that the DERM needs replaced. It appears that only the sensors need replaced after a deployment.
I need to know for sure as parts for these cars are not easily found in So Australia.
Maybe I will replace the sensors with the air bag and see which error codes come up.
Thx to all who have taken an interest.
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Thanks to Ron for the scans.
I still am not sure that the DERM needs replaced. It appears that only the sensors need replaced after a deployment.
I need to know for sure as parts for these cars are not easily found in So Australia.
Maybe I will replace the sensors with the air bag and see which error codes come up.
Thx to all who have taken an interest.
I still am not sure that the DERM needs replaced. It appears that only the sensors need replaced after a deployment.
I need to know for sure as parts for these cars are not easily found in So Australia.
Maybe I will replace the sensors with the air bag and see which error codes come up.
Thx to all who have taken an interest.
SIR and seat-belt warning should respond normally to the key-on requests.
Last edited by WVZR-1; Aug 25, 2013 at 10:57 PM.
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Thanks to Ron for the scans.
I still am not sure that the DERM needs replaced. It appears that only the sensors need replaced after a deployment.
I need to know for sure as parts for these cars are not easily found in So Australia.
Maybe I will replace the sensors with the air bag and see which error codes come up.
Thx to all who have taken an interest.
I still am not sure that the DERM needs replaced. It appears that only the sensors need replaced after a deployment.
I need to know for sure as parts for these cars are not easily found in So Australia.
Maybe I will replace the sensors with the air bag and see which error codes come up.
Thx to all who have taken an interest.
