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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 06:21 PM
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My cluster is all electronic and it won't go on. Fuses are good..it was working a week ago. Help
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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My cluster is all electronic and it won't go on. Fuses are good..it was working a week ago. Help
Try the website below, look right down the page they have a lot of info and tips where to look for the problem.
It may just be the lights in the cluster that need replacement.

http://www.batee.com/
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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yep, they do that.

basically why they quit putting all digital clusters in Corvettes...


Batee.com and some elec tools.


Beware the 'evil tabs...'
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Old Aug 29, 2013 | 02:34 AM
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The main thing that causes the cluster not to light up is a bad photocell. If the dash thinks it's dark it will dim the back lights.

There are four back lights. Sometimes one will fail. Usually that's pretty obvious, as part of the cluster will be dark.

If nothing at all is working then it could be a bad power supply.
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Old Aug 29, 2013 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
The main thing that causes the cluster not to light up is a bad photocell. If the dash thinks it's dark it will dim the back lights.

There are four back lights. Sometimes one will fail. Usually that's pretty obvious, as part of the cluster will be dark.

If nothing at all is working then it could be a bad power supply.

I'll probably just buy a new one and put it in. thanks everyone
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Old Aug 29, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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Wow just drove it around the block and now its lit up but nothings working....
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Old Aug 29, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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Sounds like you have a bad solder joint on the main connector inside the panel. Shoot Brian an email, (batee.com) and he should be able to give you an idea what it may be. Mine didnt work at all, and I re-soldered my connector, now it all works. h
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Old Aug 31, 2013 | 07:07 AM
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I have to agree that the 10 pin Molex connector that connects the boards together is a prime suspect as well. Carefully take your dash assembly apart and look for obvious problems. My dash actually had a dark brown area on the ground pin so I soldered a wire jumper around the Molex. There are also other grounds that can get corroded. I put a dedicated ground wire on mine before I found the burnt pin. Check out Batee.com as suggested before you spend the big bucks on a new one.

If you do buy a new one and they dont want the core, I desperately need new LCDs so please PM me I will be glad to give you the core charge and shipping. Thanks!!
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I have dash lights when the key is in the ON position but go out when the engine is running at night. whats wrong ?
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Originally Posted by Surfer G
I have dash lights when the key is in the ON position but go out when the engine is running at night. whats wrong ?
Nothing I dont think. Mine does the same thing. The dash should light when you turn on your headlamps. Does yours light up after you turn yours on?
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Old Sep 1, 2013 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Surfer G
I have dash lights when the key is in the ON position but go out when the engine is running at night. whats wrong ?
Sounds like your photocell is bad. I can see mine in any light, night, or day, and I rarely use my headlights. I'm too old to be out at night. Lol. Brian sells all the parts, and are easily installed. Happy soldering! h

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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
If nothing at all is working then it could be a bad power supply.
Just remember the dash power supply drives the LCD info display not the lighting. Lighting is 12v and completely separate.
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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HlhnEast
Just remember the dash power supply drives the LCD info display not the lighting. Lighting is 12v and completely separate.
That's why my answer had two parts. The power supply supplies power for the electronics that cause all the LCD display segments to light (or not).
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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Surfer G
I have dash lights when the key is in the ON position but go out when the engine is running at night. whats wrong ?
The headlight switch sends a signal to the dash that tells it that the parking or headlights are on. The dash dims at night because of this. The photocell is still in the circuit but has a very small effect on the brightness.

Try turning the headlight **** all the way counter clockwise. There is a rheostat on the headlight switch that controls the dash brightness when the parking/headlights are on.

The dash dimming circuit is very interesting. I got a few surprises when I traced it out. I'm working on an article...
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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
That's why my answer had two parts.
Not to be nitpicky, Cliff but I just thought you were not clear. Its a common mistake (not that you made it) for people to think the power supply runs the whole board. They will purchase a whole new board only to discover there ground is bad.


Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
The power supply supplies power for the electronics that cause all the LCD display segments to light (or not).
Even this quote here is misleading. The LCDs never "Light", they turn on or activate. I can assure you you cannot see anything at night on your dash if the lighting circuit is out.

And you are correct about the headlight switch and I bet your surprise was its actually fed thru the TAIL circuit. Yep it was an interesting journey for me as well.

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Sorry guys, I have a C5, Found out I don't have tail lights either,
been told it's the headlight/ directional switch is bad, common on C5s.
If I switch to twilight mod all works fine.
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Old Sep 3, 2013 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by HlhnEast
And you are correct about the headlight switch and I bet your surprise was its actually fed thru the TAIL circuit. Yep it was an interesting journey for me as well.
The surprise for me was that the microcontroller in the dash controls the brightness of the backlighting. I still haven't figured out if it uses linear control or pulse width modulation (I suspect the latter). My next step is to get the oscilloscope hooked up and check it out. I need to get the dash out of the car and tap into the backlight circuit.

Another surprise was the INST fuse, which is in line with the headlight switch dimmer rheostat. It doesn't seem to go anywhere else. [EDIT] It's called INST on the diagram in the FSM but it's actually LPS in the fuse panel. [/EDIT]

The diagram in the FSM on page 8A-82-0 is NOT how the backlighting is actually hooked up. I think they were trying to simplify the diagram to make it easier to understand. They don't really need to show details since you can't repair the dash anyway. It was a swap out deal all along.

I was drawing a schematic earlier tonight...

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Old Sep 3, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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I got tired of messing with my digi-dash so I bought the Vetteaid autometer panel and I LOVE IT! A little pricey but I plan on driving this car till they take the keys away and put me in a home.
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
I was drawing a schematic earlier tonight...
This will help a lot of folks because of the complexity (or stupidity) of how the dash actually gets power to the lights.

I had forgotten about the INSTR fuse as one area to check. I started a "what to check first" on the no dash lights issue but lost track and now I dont remember, . Blame CRS, it cant be the old age creepin in
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My speedometer lights up but nothing else in the cluster does unless I press my hand on the plastic case. Should I follow the same advice posted above or am I having a different problem?
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