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My Atari dash is heading south, 2 of the 3 LCDs are washing out. The speedo still is ok but was missing segments. I dont think the problem is sun burn as I was out of town and my car sat for 2 months with a cover on it while this happened. Since my cover isnt worth a crap and I have bad targa gaskets LOTS of water got in and thanks to our fine FL heat and summer rains the inside of my car looked like a mold incubator. My theory is somehow the extreme humidity and heat in the car managed to ruin something involved with the LCDs. Any ideas or anyone have experience with this?
Anyway I am considering going to analog gauges. I know there is a really nice PnP set up available but I am thinking of something a little different. I have to do something soon as I need my fuel, oil, and temp gauges.
I have read that the cruise control speed is set thru the digi dash and once you get rid of the dash you loose the cruise function. Is there a module from say a thirdgen or something I can make to regain the cruise? I tried a search but my skills there are lacking so any help would be highly appreciated
Yes you will need a cruise control module out of a thirdgen (or caprice?) and you will need a 4-out buffer or another method to get a 2000 PPM signal for the CCM. I'm using a Dakota Digital SGI-5 (because of a T56 swap) that has a 2000 PPM output, the speedometer works on a 4000 PPM signal and for my '86 the ECM also takes the 2000 PPM
I though the DD unit was stand alone, didn't know it needed computer input? Or am I looking at a different model? Kinda thought it was so you could add cruise to any vehicle. h
I though the DD unit was stand alone, didn't know it needed computer input? Or am I looking at a different model? Kinda thought it was so you could add cruise to any vehicle. h
The Dakota Digital SGI-5 can perform a variety of signal conversions (depending upon the need). It converts my "OC" signal (from a Hall effect VSS in the T56) to an "AC" signal which the 4+3 used to produce. The 4-out buffer smooths out the signal for the speedo (to prevent needle bounce, I think) and provides a half signal (2000 PPM) for both the ECM and the CCM. I would surmise the factory Atari Dash accomplishes the functions of the 4-out buffer as also the Cruise Control Module.
I just recently converted my dash to analog, from a '87 Firebird. Originally, I had the 4-out buffer used in series with the SGI-5 but I couldn't get that to work. Might have been just a bad connection somewhere, but I ended up axing the 4-out as the SGI-5 accomplished the same function(s).
Here's the Cruise Control Module (left) and the 4-Out Buffer (right)
I had to end up getting a 4 output buffer (from an FBody) to use with my VetteAid dash. The Autometer speedo takes in the 4000ppm VSS signal and was putting out a matching 4000ppm signal to the ECM. Imagine my surprise when datalogging said I was going 160mph. It also cured the bouncing speedo needle as well as some drivability issues.
I didn't keep the CC so that was not a concern for me.
I think you could use a cruise control from a 90-2000 Chevy truck. Uses a VSS input only and its electric instead of the vacuum. Im planning to put one on my car and know a guy from my old Corvair club that installed one on his Corvair by glueing magnets onto one axle as a speed sensor.
Of course I no longer have an ECM (carbed) so maybe its not possible for you...
I looked at the Firebird gauge conversion and may actually go that route as well. Are the modules shown from the Firebird?
Yes the modules came out of a Firebird from the junk yard. My (firebird) gauges I bought off the net- very cheap $35. And the conversion was an incredible PITA for me. I got it done (finally) but I put a LOT of hours into it. I couldn't get the chopped up FB cluster to fit nicely. The FB cluster looks like a plastic box, but there not one square side on it anywhere. I trashed that and whittled up my own box to mount the gauges in. It came out pretty good, but I'll be looking on the side for some nice Autometers, or Stewart Warners some day
I'm new to this forum and was brought here via Google search for "Analog Cruise Control", My family has had numerous Corvettes over the years, ranging in years from 1962 through 1990 and pretty much every year in between. My Mom was especially proud of her fully restored 1967, and my favorite was the drop-top 1972 I got my first ticket in.
Now I'm working on something new/old and can use the collective wisdom of guys and gals who get things done.
I have an old school International Scout II, and am doing a 383 Stroker swap. No electronic components. The throttle is a cable linkage. Is there an analog cruise I can set up? I figured if anyone would know, it would be someone here. Thanks in advance for any guidance you can provide. Basically, I want to install cruise into an old "old school hot rod" that's not intended to break the sound barrier. I just want convenience and reliability of cruise control without electronic components.
Last edited by KevinKos; May 5, 2023 at 03:49 PM.
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