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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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is there a manifold air temp sensor on an 85 that screews into the bottom of the plenum? because i have some broken sensor in there and is this it? http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...44824_0_0_4439
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is there a manifold air temp sensor on an 85 that screews into the bottom of the plenum? because i have some broken sensor in there and is this it? http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...44824_0_0_4439
Yes and it looks like the one in the link.
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awesome! thanks man.
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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 06:23 PM
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Actually the oem one is the same as the coolant sensor and the tip is solid brass. Your link is the updated version, so don't get worried if it's slightly different.
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great! i splurged a little bit to get it all up together couldve almost gotten a ram >.<
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any idea what these are?
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Your car should have recorded and error code 25 for the bad.disconnected sensor on the underside of the plenum. Technically this is called the IAT Intake Air Temperature sensor

I think you might have idle problems with the looks of the IAC. Looks like it took on a little water. I know that Washingtonians don't tan, they rust. But I didn't know that this also applied to the IAC!!
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thats my cold start switch and my idle air control valve ;( $200 worth of sensors
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Watch out for the connector type. The connectors changed in 1987 and the later parts won't plug in.

The MAT (Manifold Air Temperature) sensor harness is about 12" long. I would take it to the auto parts store to make sure it plugs into the new sensor.
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Was the MAT sensor on the early cars only to turn the EGR on?
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Next time you need parts, check out RockAuto online. There will be a small shipping charge, but most of the time you can save considerable money.

I was up en Everett last week on Colby. The weather was great.
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Originally Posted by 86 iron
Was the MAT sensor on the early cars only to turn the EGR on?
No. The EGR is enabled by a temperature switch at the base of the EGR valve.
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Originally Posted by 86 iron
Was the MAT sensor on the early cars only to turn the EGR on?
It is the only table in the programming that I've seen. IE: The AANM BCC shows the EGR enable temp as -17.50 C.
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Next time you need parts, check out RockAuto online. There will be a small shipping charge, but most of the time you can save considerable money.
And most of the time you will have the option of purchasing original AC Delco parts.
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rock auto has em both for the price of 1 at oreillys, awesome stuff
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
It is the only table in the programming that I've seen. IE: The AANM BCC shows the EGR enable temp as -17.50 C.
The EGR duty cycle is controlled by the ECM using inputs from the CTS, TPS and MAF.
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Originally Posted by cumbercr
The EGR duty cycle is controlled by the ECM using inputs from the CTS, TPS and MAF.
I believe the question was specific to what the MAT does? The only caveat in the programming is in reference to the EGR enable temp that I'm aware of? Fuel not being dependent on it as suggested by others.
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
I believe the question was specific to what the MAT does? The only caveat in the programming is in reference to the EGR enable temp that I'm aware of? Fuel not being dependent on it as suggested by others.
According to the FSM, the only purpose the MAT serves is to delay opening of the EGR until manifold temps reach 5 Deg C.

The EGR temperature switch is a diagnostic switch. It senses heat from exhaust gases downstream of the EGR. If the switch does not heat up and close within 4 minutes of the EGR opening, a code is set.
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Originally Posted by cumbercr
According to the FSM, the only purpose the MAT serves is to delay opening of the EGR until manifold temps reach 5 Deg C.

The EGR temperature switch is a diagnostic switch. It senses heat from exhaust gases downstream of the EGR. If the switch does not heat up and close within 4 minutes of the EGR opening, a code is set.
Interesting? I find it amazing the difference between the FSM, and what is actually programmed. I opened a 86 AANM this morning and it showed -17.50 C. The FSM also says the fans come on at 228, but they're programmed at 107.75 C which converts to 225.95 F. I know I'm being picky, but you'd think they'd be more accurate.
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
Interesting? I find it amazing the difference between the FSM, and what is actually programmed. I opened a 86 AANM this morning and it showed -17.50 C. The FSM also says the fans come on at 228, but they're programmed at 107.75 C which converts to 225.95 F. I know I'm being picky, but you'd think they'd be more accurate.
There certainly are discrepancies between the manual and real life. The stock BIN for the 85 uses -17.5 C as the minimum MAT temperature. Yet the book clearly states 5 C as the minimum. That's a significant difference.

My manual states that the cooling fan should run if coolant temperature is greater than 106 C. But the constants table is set for 107.75 C.
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