C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Disabel the EGR..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-03-2002, 05:01 AM
  #1  
devilfish
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
devilfish's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Sweden/Stockholm
Posts: 3,010
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Disabel the EGR..

How do I do it?
And should the EGR be in closed or open mode?
Is the EGR closed when its "down" or "up" ?

REgards
Old 07-03-2002, 12:44 PM
  #2  
Flame Red
Le Mans Master
 
Flame Red's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 1999
Location: Windermere FL
Posts: 6,274
Received 1,089 Likes on 658 Posts

Default Re: Disabel the EGR.. (devilfish)

I believe that you need to have you chip in the ECM changed to eliminate the EGR function.

Check with the guy before you have him burn you a chip to make sure they really can do what you want. I have been burned before when I requested special programming only to get the chip and find out that they they could not make the changes I needed.
Old 07-03-2002, 12:50 PM
  #3  
vader86
Team Owner
 
vader86's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2001
Location: Athens AL
Posts: 59,673
Received 1,404 Likes on 1,019 Posts
C7 of the Year - Unmodified Finalist 2021
C4 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019

Default Re: Disabel the EGR.. (Flame Red)

You need to do it with a Chip to eliminate the Code 32. Then remove the pipes.
Old 07-03-2002, 12:50 PM
  #4  
scorp508
Team Owner
 
scorp508's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2000
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 83,274
Received 46 Likes on 38 Posts

Default

I'm getting no codes and my EGR temp sensor isn't even plugged in. The solenoid is, but not the sensor.
Old 07-03-2002, 12:52 PM
  #5  
The Dingo
Team Owner
 
The Dingo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 42,858
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
CI 6-7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-‘17, '22


Default Re: Disabel the EGR.. (devilfish)

Can't you just block the tubes or stick a restrictor plate in one one the EGR openings?

Is there really any performance gain to be made by deleting the EGR (assuming that is why you want to do it)? I thought it only worked at part throttle anyway. :confused:
Old 07-03-2002, 01:01 PM
  #6  
devilfish
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
devilfish's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Sweden/Stockholm
Posts: 3,010
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: Disabel the EGR.. (Red 90 L98 Coupe)

ghee. Can some one tell me what the EGR do?
I whant to trie if my probleme with low rpm hesitation has anything to do with the EGR.
Old 07-03-2002, 01:02 PM
  #7  
scorp508
Team Owner
 
scorp508's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2000
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 83,274
Received 46 Likes on 38 Posts

Default

Exhaust
Gas
Recirculation

Basically some of your exhaust gases are reintroduced to the intake to help burn off some more of your emissions.
Old 07-03-2002, 01:04 PM
  #8  
devilfish
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
devilfish's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Sweden/Stockholm
Posts: 3,010
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: (scorp508)

ok, what parts are involved?
And why does some people say that my low RPM hesitation can be the EGR? :confused:
Old 07-03-2002, 01:08 PM
  #9  
scorp508
Team Owner
 
scorp508's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2000
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 83,274
Received 46 Likes on 38 Posts

Default

ok, what parts are involved?
That tube that goes from your exhaust manifold to the intake manifold. The EGR valve under the plenum, the solenoid near the thermostat housing, the sensor plugged into the tube, and a few vacuum lines.

There are passages in our intake manifolds that route the gases from the port near the distributor from that tube to the EGR valve. The EGR valve then opens up to introduce them into another passage back into the intake.
Old 07-03-2002, 01:08 PM
  #10  
devilfish
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
devilfish's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Sweden/Stockholm
Posts: 3,010
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: (devilfish)

Does the EGR controll teh fuel/air mixture?
Old 07-03-2002, 01:10 PM
  #11  
scorp508
Team Owner
 
scorp508's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2000
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 83,274
Received 46 Likes on 38 Posts

Default Re: (devilfish)

Does the EGR controll teh fuel/air mixture?
It does not "control" it, but it could add a bit to it if there is unburned fuel in the gases it reintroduces. In the same breath the O2 sensor should see this and the ECM should compensate.
Old 07-03-2002, 01:13 PM
  #12  
devilfish
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
devilfish's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Sweden/Stockholm
Posts: 3,010
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: (scorp508)

thanks :) I dont like the ide to put hot exhaust fumes in a already hot engine. So I guess i can plug the hose going from the exhaust. And just take of all the vaccume tubes? I can live with a code32 until i get a custom chip.. And wjere is that censor on the "tube" located, on the manifold?


[Modified by devilfish, 6:13 PM 7/3/2002]
Old 07-03-2002, 01:18 PM
  #13  
scorp508
Team Owner
 
scorp508's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2000
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 83,274
Received 46 Likes on 38 Posts

Default

You will want to either make, or buy a couple of blockoff plates. One for your exhaust manifold, and one for your intake manifold. Block those off, take the tube off and unplug the temp sensor. The temp sensor is in the EGR tube scrwed onto it and connects to the wiring harness down behind the distributor.

I would leave the vacuum lines alone as they are probably old and brittle right now.
Old 07-03-2002, 01:27 PM
  #14  
devilfish
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
devilfish's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Sweden/Stockholm
Posts: 3,010
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: (scorp508)

ok. will do that...
Mayby this will take car of my stumbel at low rpw..

:seeya
Old 07-03-2002, 01:28 PM
  #15  
devilfish
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
devilfish's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Sweden/Stockholm
Posts: 3,010
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: (devilfish)

What happens if i just take of the temp censor? WIll that not disabel the EGR?

REgards
Old 07-03-2002, 01:36 PM
  #16  
Aggravated4life
Race Director
 
Aggravated4life's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,130
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Cruise-In II Veteran

Default Re: (devilfish)

Just to add a few things,EGR will also COOL the combustion chamber as much as 500 degrees F.(not sure of Celsius coversion)

If the EGR is sticking/leaking,it can cause too much EGR into the chamber and cause stalling,idle problems,etc.

Little/or Not enough EGR,and it can get too hot inside the chamber causing pinging and stumbling problems.

(not all cars with no EGR exhibit these symptoms..I think engines with bigger cams dont get affected,and even the LT4 motor doesnt need a EGR due to its cam design)

On most cars where the EGR valve is easily access,I would use my fingers and push the valve up and down to see if its sticking.
But the L98 is difficult to check this way without taking the plenum off.

Another way to test the EGR valve for fault,IS to unhook the vacuum line and put a rubber cap on it then go for a test drive to see if the symptoms go away or get worse.

Hope this helps somewhat.I have to say I hate EGR and will like to remove it all someday,aiding in getting rid of ugly plumbing.

:)
Old 07-03-2002, 02:40 PM
  #17  
War Machine
Le Mans Master
 
War Machine's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Location: Airport Cruise-in 1 Veteran Airport Cruise-in 2 Veteran
Posts: 5,192
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Cruise-In II Veteran
Default

Great post All! :cheers:

I'm doing away with the EGR as well. I was a little weary about doing this at first but this post is making me feel much better. I'm going to keep 1 cat in the exhaust system, do I have to worry about it wearing out quicker w/o the EGR?

Get notified of new replies

To Disabel the EGR..

Old 07-03-2002, 03:23 PM
  #18  
jtjerry
Racer
 
jtjerry's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2000
Location: Krakow
Posts: 411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (War Machine)

I disabled EGR 4 years ago. No overheating, or any codes. No any benefits that you could feel, either :smash:
BUT:
EGR put gases to intake and when you open intake (plenum, runners, manifold) you see what EGR is doing: you will see alot black stuff there. That is what EGR doing. Dirt your intake as hell.
Yea, it is for emission, reduce NOx by reduce combustion temperature.
F**C emission, F**k that as**les from greenpeace and another communists!!! Mother Earth will live without your EGR as well as with it. Your engine will be cleanest inside.
Jerry
Old 07-03-2002, 03:32 PM
  #19  
GlockLT4
Team Owner
 
GlockLT4's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2001
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 22,267
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default Re: (scorp508)

I would just leave it on if i were you (mine still is). It helps to keep cylinder temperatures down when doing normal crusing. It turns off when you give it gas and don't want preburned gas going into the cylinders.


[Modified by Glock'94, 1:32 PM 7/3/2002]
Old 07-03-2002, 04:16 PM
  #20  
jtjerry
Racer
 
jtjerry's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2000
Location: Krakow
Posts: 411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Glock'94)

but dirt all intake badly.
Jerry


Quick Reply: Disabel the EGR..



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:49 AM.