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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 05:16 AM
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All of a sudden the engine got hot (almost pegged the gauge) and the fans didn't come on until around 260 degrees. Never got this hot before. Radiator is clear of leaves and such. Coolant is full. Thermostat problem perhaps?
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 06:20 AM
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Default Re: 96 Cooling Problem (Shylor)

Hmmm.. just all of a sudden??

Maybe the ECU needs a reboot.. disconnect one of the terminals on the battery for about 30 sec. and then reconnect...

I know I've gotten my A/C and CD player to start working correctly with that method.

If that doesn't fix it then we know we've got deeper issues.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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Try rebooting first, since it is free. I think it is the thermostat. Fortunately they are cheap. The only thing on our cars that is cheap!
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 09:55 PM
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Isn't it unusual for the thermostat to go out this early in the cars life?
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 09:07 AM
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I just had the same exact problem last week. Out of nowhere *Bam* the temp gauge pegged. I have a really good cooling system so I was very suprised. I let it cool down, checked the fluid, pulled the thermo.....Nothing, all fine. I finally traced the problem to the recovery tank cap. Just like any radiator cap, if the pressure cap sticks, pressure builds up and you will over heat. I got a new one for $11.00 at the local auto parts store and the problem went away.

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Oh, Yeah, what they said too. I would reboot the ECU first.


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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 05:56 PM
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Anyone know where the fan relays are located?
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 05:58 PM
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Default Re: 96 Cooling Problem (Dan Parker '96)

[QUOTE]Maybe the ECU needs a reboot.. disconnect one of the terminals on the battery for about 30 sec. and then reconnect...[QUOTE]

What is this ECU? My service manual doesn't have any information about it.
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 10:00 PM
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fan relays are on the driver side attached to the raditar shroud. check the fans and make sure both are running when called. my did this about 2 years ago when a stick (how ...) got jammed in the secondary fan and caused it to fail.
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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 05:03 AM
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Default Re: 96 Cooling Problem (mj_duell)

I got a new one for $11.00 at the local auto parts store and the problem went away.

Seems kind of high for a recovery tank cap! For that price I could get a radiator cap.
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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 09:23 AM
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True, but I was worried and in a rush. It was the closest store to where I live and when I said I wanted it for a Vette recovery tank, I think they saw dollars signs. I'm just happy there are no more problems with the cooling system.........did you hear that? Just knocking on the table wood for luck.
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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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Couple of things. With no A/C, primary fan comes on around 230, give or take. If they come on when the analog gauge shows 260, then the ECU/PCM (ECU-Electronic Control Unit/Engine Control Unit/Powertrain Control Module)thinks the engine temp is around 230, provides the ground for the relay, fan(s) start. I would suspect the Engine Coolant Temp Sensor (ECT) is not providing an accurate signal to the ECM/PCM. The new sensor from GM is around $11-13. If you have the service manual, you can remove the sensor, use an ohm meter, and compare the reading with the ambient temperature chart located in the manual. Those things can be quite far off and not set a code. Let us know.

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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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You need a factory service manual for its cooling fan diagnostic information.

It is possible that the primary fan is not coming on.

Additionally, as Dave Meyers says, you may want to check the ECT.
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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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It is possible that the primary fan is not coming on

Thought I said that in my orginal post.
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 04:42 AM
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Default Re: 96 Cooling Problem

Tried the reboot thing and it didn't correct the problem. I'm leaning more now towards one of the fan relays being bad. Neither fan is NOT coming on until the engine temp is at around 260. Or it could be a fuse to the relay is bad. The fan relays are around $31 each!
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 05:26 AM
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I'm leaning more now towards one of the fan relays being bad. Neither fan is NOT coming on until the engine temp is at around 260. Or it could be a fuse to the relay is bad.
If the fans do operate, then the problem is not the fuse and most likely not the relays. If either of those were bad, your fans wouldn't come on at all.

I'd concentrate on finding out why the fans are being told to come on so late (260 degrees! :eek:). Either the reservoir cap or the ECT sensor sound like a logical next step.

Good luck,
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 05:08 PM
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If the fans do operate, then the problem is not the fuse and most likely not the relays. If either of those were bad, your fans wouldn't come on at all.

I'd concentrate on finding out why the fans are being told to come on so late (260 degrees! :eek:). Either the reservoir cap or the ECT sensor sound like a logical next step.

Good luck,
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The ECT and reservoir cap are fine. I'm leaning with the relays because I think it is possible that relay #3 may be the cause. Relay #1 and #2 are directly for the fans but #3 may delay when they come on. At least that's what I'm getting from the schematic of them.
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