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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 06:46 PM
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What will give the car a bigger bang a nice set of gears or a nice set of heads?
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dgantt
What will give the car a bigger bang a nice set of gears or a nice set of heads?
I'd say gears, but then, I heard a large bang when my modded engine broke the stock gears.

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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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In terms of "seat of pants feel/$", its hard to go wrong with gears....

What other mods do you have?
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 09:46 PM
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K/N filter, 52mm throttle body, ported plentum, eldelbrock high flow runner and intake, light head work, bigger valves, 24lb injectors, cam, punched over to 355Cub inch, long tube headers, no Cats, true duals, cat back exhaust and a tune.
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 10:01 PM
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What rear gears do you have now? If 3.07, I wouldn't bother changing it if you're running a long tube runner intake.
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 10:05 PM
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What year vette? What drivetrain? Stock LT1 vettes do well with lower than stock gearing (lower gear = higher numerically) But why not combine engine mods with a gear swap?
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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Heads wont do as much with long runner intake. I would do intake and heads if your heads arent really worked over and the cam is decent sized

If cam is small then heads may not be as great a bang for buck but still an improvement

Gears work for certain cars. 3.42's over 2.77 in my camaro felt awesome but 3.73 over 2.73 in my ls1 car did nothing at all. .1 in the 1/4 mile and you cant feel that
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 10:55 PM
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Quick and relatively cheap, best bang?

Gears,

With heads, how are they really beneficial without a cam, headers, exhaust, intake runners, Tune for ECM..

Gears are simple
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 11:08 PM
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Heads!!!! Then get rid of that intake and go to something better. You can get some higher reving manifolds for around $500, or a you can go all the way with a Miniram. That will be the most bang for your buck. Don't go with the gears because they will put you out of your power range if you go to high. I spent $600 on my 3.75s with bearings and seals, another $200 at $50/hr to have them installed and I had to remove the differential case myself.
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 09:06 AM
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Sorry the car is a 1990 L98 TPI auto with as far as I know the stock dana36 with 2:59's.
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TA
What rear gears do you have now? If 3.07, I wouldn't bother changing it if you're running a long tube runner intake.
agreed, need more info!

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Sorry the car is a 1990 L98 TPI auto with as far as I know the stock dana36 with 2:59's.
Check your RPO's to make SURE you know what gears you have. If you have 2.59's I'd say to gear down to the 3.07's. If you have 3.07's, I'd say grab some nice heads.
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 11:27 AM
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I would go with gears made a difference on my old '86. It had 3.07 from factory, I went to a 3.73 in it. and it was a night and day difference.
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 11:30 AM
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3.73's would be excessive on a stock intake L98 I would think.... too much gear not enough rpm.
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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Mine was stock L98 and made a huge difference.
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 12:49 PM
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3.45/3.54 gear if its modded would be perfect id think. Enough gear to pull hard and not run through it too quick. Night and day from a 2.xx gear.
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This^^^

This car has a pretty aggressive cam already, so gears would be my choice. Don't listen to the BS about an intake only if most of your driving is above 4000 rpm. The RPM limiting factor of the long tube design creates more power below 4000, so your seat of pants from the light is faster. If you live for the quarter mile then a short runner design is fine. Putting a Miniram on a stock L98 would be counter productive.
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Originally Posted by eatmydst1234
I would go with gears made a difference on my old '86. It had 3.07 from factory, I went to a 3.73 in it. and it was a night and day difference.
When you say "night and day difference" do you mean through results at the track or through SOTP?
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
This^^^

This car has a pretty aggressive cam already, so gears would be my choice. Don't listen to the BS about an intake only if most of your driving is above 4000 rpm. The RPM limiting factor of the long tube design creates more power below 4000, so your seat of pants from the light is faster. If you live for the quarter mile then a short runner design is fine. Putting a Miniram on a stock L98 would be counter productive.
unless you plan to run the mile runs competitively or run tracks with a lot of long straights, your intake is fine. If I had your set up, I would step up to 3.07 rear ratio and put on the three piece underdrive pulley set. Remove the frisbee too if you haven't already. And, lastly you may look at 1.6 ratio roller rockers too.
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I disagree. My L98 made substantial power gains with a stealth ram swap on stock L98.
It had headers, converter and 3.42's already. In ice cold air the stock tpi went 13.63 at 97.

Nothin more than hsr swap and thats it it went 13.52 in mid summer air. I got that car down to 13.2's in cold air with underdrive pulleys. Thats a near half second gain in just intake in similar air conditions. Added drag wheels for 70lb reduction and 1.6 rockers and aggressive timing curve it went 12.95 at 104
Best tpi 60 ft was 1.75-1.76. Hsr went 1.70-1.71 same converter and stall. Shorter runners still make low end power

Intake on stock L98 picks up alot. If you have ported heads and cam the gains are even more pronounced

Adding better heads plus intake even more power with whatever cam is in it

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You dropped 3/10's w/ just UDP's?
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