Who goes 11.50 and slower these days?

 

FORDS

 

Funny guys!

 

Not trying to be to funny lol..

The new cars being made these days are just flat out fast and crazy. Back in the 70s & 80s I dont think there was a normal production car that broke into the 12s with little to no work. Nowadays we have factory cars running over 200 MPH top speed and hitting the High 10s with nothing but some good tires. Its flat out crazy. Even my SHO ran a 13 second 1/4 mile out the box. Now add e down pipe, exhaust, CAI and a tune and guys are running low 11s in a 4 door fully loaded family car. And yes its a FORD lol.

The New Z06 is 625 hp. I bet that car is going to fly and I also think it will take very little work to hit and exceed 800 HP on that car. Isnt technology great?

 

I am curious how and why, an experienced drag racer like yourself, puts up with the bullCrap rules like that.

For example, i have a 6 point welded bar on my c4 vert. 98% of the places i race it is fine.

2% of the places wont let me race because my rear main hoop braces are at angle greater than 30 deg to the main hoop.

I would have to do an unbelievable hack job in my vert deck lid to achieve that.

Or heres another dumb rule:

If you have a relocated battery, then you need the hot side + wiring run to the rear of your car to a shut off switch at the back of the car.

So, ok, im a tard and am going to run live hot wire past my metal (ground) fuel tank such that in an accident the wires insulation can chafe, and short out against the mtal frame/fuel tank possibly with flammable fuel pouring out on top of the short circuiting wires. Who knows..maybe you will be trapped in the wreckage as that occurs too.

I know you sign a waiver but a good lawyer would be able to shut down the nhra when they have a rule forcing you into a dangerous situation like i described above.

When we have tracks that get **** on the rules, I take my business elsewhere.

We have some cool, laid back 1/4 mile tracks where i live.

 

The tracks have to start somewhere with rules to protect idiots from themselves. Although they may seem unfair in some instances, the alternative is no rules at all. You certainly wouldn't want to be racing 20 feet from some yahoo with 3 lugnuts. The waivers we all sign has protected the tracks in most instances. Without these rules and waivers, there would be no sport such as drag racing, and we would all lose. The reason for a kill switch in the back is in case of an accident, the safetly crew needs to shut the motor off if it is running. A bad wreck might ground out the negative side of the battery against the chassis. In this case, a negative pole kill switch will not shut the motor off. If the wreck grounds the positive side of the battery, a fire may start, but at least the motor will shut off lol.

 

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Originally Posted by smooth1990

Not trying to be to funny lol..

The new cars being made these days are just flat out fast and crazy. Back in the 70s & 80s I dont think there was a normal production car that broke into the 12s with little to no work. Nowadays we have factory cars running over 200 MPH top speed and hitting the High 10s with nothing but some good tires. Its flat out crazy. Even my SHO ran a 13 second 1/4 mile out the box. Now add e down pipe, exhaust, CAI and a tune and guys are running low 11s in a 4 door fully loaded family car. And yes its a FORD lol.

The New Z06 is 625 hp. I bet that car is going to fly and I also think it will take very little work to hit and exceed 800 HP on that car. Isnt technology great?

Not sure if you know this but its my understanding a pure stock vehicle, hardtop, 2008 and newer can run down to a 10.0 with only factory equipment. A friend of mine in Richmond, who races a lot, told me some tracks take the position that drag radials are not allowed, keeping it pure stock, but most tracks are allowing the drag radials. Here is a link you might find interesting. http://www.stangtv.com/news/nhra-ame...reet-vehicles/

 

Here's mine
http://s242.photobucket.com/user/swi...?sort=3&page=1

 

My rollbar is pretty much flush with the top.

 

Brian:

Why the swingouts?

I just climb over my sidebars. i have a 'no fat chicks' sticker on the passenger side.

In all seriousness i went with permanent sidebars in hopes for more chassis stiffness.

At the end of the day, i expected more of a rigidity improvement than what i did get.

 

If you want rigid...the diagonal brace into the passenger speaker will have far more effect than sidebars alone.

Cross bracing is what a cage is all about...it prevents the chassis from twisting.

 

Holy crap! I had no idea. Here I was expecting to cage my C6z just to hit the track! Great info Man! Thanks!

 

you guys have some **** tracks.

for the tracks near me:, if it has wheels and can make it to the starting line, it competes.

First time i ever went there i saw a guy driving a 70 gto (this was in early 90s) drinking a cool beer in the hot staging lanes.

Granted i dont see that there anymore...

The only thing they complain about is no helmet if runs faster than 14.0.

Oh yeah, and if you drive too fast on the pit road.

I dont mess around with norwalk or any of the places that actually tech the cars

 

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Originally Posted by dizwiz24

you guys have some **** tracks.

for the tracks near me:, if it has wheels and can make it to the starting line, it competes.

Its kinda funny around here. Most of the tracks give some lead way if its a private rental, test and tune etc. And some of these tracks are big name tracks. IMO they kinda look at it as speeding. Sure a cop can write a ticket for 56 in a 55 but usually they allow a little room on that.
We do have one local 1/8 mile track that is to the letter on street cars. Lets legimate race cars by with a lot of stuff.
An example of this is:
I was there with my car and made a few passes. We were still working out the bugs. I made a pass at 7.47. The limit is 7.49. When I came around, they stopped me and told me, slow it down, put a rollbar in it, or take it home. I said ok, went around, made a 7.35 pass, and took it home.
The same night, a guy was there in a Honda, he had a 6 point bar. Made a 7.39 pass and they told him to get a fire jacket on.
By contrast, my buddy has a SC 93 mustang. Running 5.60's at 125 mph. It is a true racecar. But at any rate, he was in shorts and flip flops and they never said a word. Now this was all on the same night.
My whole point is, the track has the right to enforce any rules they choose too, and it is for our safety. Most are somewhat flexible with the rollbar, they use a little common sense, and recognize a newer car is a little safer then the 57 chevy with 4 drum brakes that these rules were designed around.
But again, they have the right to insist on rollbars, and back to the OP, if you take the time, money, and the inconvence of living with a rollbar, make sure you get one designed for the type of racing you intend to use it for.
BTW, you said you had yours at the track, what kind of times are you running?

 

To be honest, its test/tune type stuff that I run there on weeknights. Usually later on in the night (After the test/tune) they will start eliminations with cash prizes to the winner(s).

They are smart enough to know that if they strictly applied the rules then no one would come there to race. This is a rural area in Ohio.

Now, if you are there on a weekend for a big-event, perhaps its different.

I can understand how some people - with purpose built drag cars, might want all the rules enforced (after all they had to make their car comply).

I dont have a problem with rollbars, I have one. The problem I have is when they start 'analyzing' it, and dont care that Id have to destroy my convertible deck lid to make the rear hoop brace become a perfect 30 degree angle.

I had some lady, at a road course event, try to get me disqualified due to my rollbar because I beat her. Really? 'cuz my rollbar is what caused me to win.

I last drag raced 2 years ago and did not do well. I did not run drag radials and could not launch hard as a result. I still got some spin in the top end of 1st. I think I ran about a 13.0@ 120? or something like that.

The other issue I had was I had too much low end timing into my AFR headed combo. This reduced low end TQ. I proved out later in the year that lower timing down low (2500 to 3200 rpm) made more TQ with that AFR head/cam combo I had (note: knock retard was NOT a factor -as I was monitoring datalogs).

Keep in mind, I ran 12.8's at the same track on just heads/cam.

So I am out to set some records-for-me this season

 

I've got a friend of mine whose dad is willing to make a roll cage for me, given I give him the design I want. The info in this thread is nice, just need to figure out what NASA will allow for the specific class I decide I want to join.

 

..... Before I had my roll bar installed , I talked to an NHRA tech inspector and remembered one important point that he made ... they will ask you who installed the bar ... if your answer is ANYTHING other than a race shop , they will be more **** about the inspection ... the only other thing that melts their butter faster is chicken-**** welds ... race shop or not .......... my 2c .........