C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Quick opti question....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 12:14 PM
  #1  
ChrisWhewell's Avatar
ChrisWhewell
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 686
Likes: 4
From: Austin Texas
Default Quick opti question....

My 93 still isn't starting. Fuel pressure good, fuses all good, injectors have pulse, drained tank put new fuel in, new fuel filter, MAP sensor tests good. I crank it and it almost starts, like it wants to start but just doesn't quite start. There is spark, but i'm wondering maybe opti is bad ?

I have a spare optispark unit from a 95 LT1 vette, motor had 25k on it when rod bearing went. The opti looks new but been sitting in garage in a box 4 years. Any reason I would not want to swap to this one ? It has the vent nipple on it. I think I read where optis are different , different years. Does anybody know if the '95 opti is a direct drop-in replacement for the '93 opti, or are the drives different or some other reason I can't swap one for the other ? Thank you very much
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 12:57 PM
  #2  
bassackwards's Avatar
bassackwards
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 663
Likes: 1
From: Nashville TN
Default

Won't fit, drives are different
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 01:03 PM
  #3  
01 Coupe's Avatar
01 Coupe
Racer
15 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 332
Likes: 24
From: Denton, TX My goal in life is to be as good of a person that my dog already thinks I am.
Default

Like Bass said, drives are different for the '95 and "96's. Besides optis are never a quick change and if you are not sure that's the problem you are creating a bunch of work for yourself. Just my .02.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 01:08 PM
  #4  
dizwiz24's Avatar
dizwiz24
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 14,659
Likes: 749
From: NEwhere Ohio
Default

cant he convert his motor to use it?

Id rather convert to use a new old stock gen 2 opti vs. Buy some piece of crap china gen 1 optispark. Though you might be able to pay top dollar and find a new old stock gen 1 optispark if you look hard enough.

The vacuum vented setup, of the gen 2, should work better. Way more reliable setup... Though you can/should easily convert a gen 1 to vented setup.

I have my 93 converted to use a gen 2 optispark. I had to so i could use the lt4 extreme duty timing chain kit.

I also put a new cam in.

My memory is failing right now (its saint patricks day) And i cant tell you all the parts i needed to do this.

Bassackwards, werent you the guy in TN that i sold my old new old stock optispark, with custom vent, to?

I bet its still working good!

Last edited by dizwiz24; Mar 17, 2014 at 01:10 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 01:29 PM
  #5  
STL94LT1's Avatar
STL94LT1
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,261
Likes: 85
From: O'Fallon Missouri
Default

List of parts to convert his 93 to a gen II opti.

Gen II vented opti
Opti vaccuum harness
Opti wire harness
Gen II timing cover
Camshaft change
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 03:26 PM
  #6  
ChrisWhewell's Avatar
ChrisWhewell
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 686
Likes: 4
From: Austin Texas
Default

thanks ya'all, I was afraid of that. Too bad the drives aren't interchangeable. By the time I change opti and pull the manifold for a cam change, I"m thinking I might just as well pull the motor to make it all easier. I just wish I could get her running again
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 03:29 PM
  #7  
DanielRicany's Avatar
DanielRicany
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 3,065
Likes: 39
Default

If you spray some starting fluid through the intake, do you get a different response from the engine? Almost likes its firing up?
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 04:00 PM
  #8  
dizwiz24's Avatar
dizwiz24
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 14,659
Likes: 749
From: NEwhere Ohio
Default

If you gotta do a cam change, now is a good time to do hotcam mod.

I would have traded you my old new old stock gen 1 opti w/ custom vent harness for this opti you have - if you would have posted this in 2012!

Last edited by dizwiz24; Mar 17, 2014 at 04:03 PM.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 17, 2014 | 08:45 PM
  #9  
Tom400CFI's Avatar
Tom400CFI
Team Owner
Pro Mechanic
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 21,543
Likes: 3,216
From: Park City Utah
Default

Originally Posted by ChrisWhewell
My 93 still isn't starting. Fuel pressure good, fuses all good, injectors have pulse, drained tank put new fuel in, new fuel filter, MAP sensor tests good. I crank it and it almost starts, like it wants to start but just doesn't quite start. There is spark, but i'm wondering maybe opti is bad ?
Well...you checked at least ONE of the critical elements required to start and engine...ave you checked the other? Is there good fuel pressure?
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2014 | 07:32 AM
  #10  
ChrisWhewell's Avatar
ChrisWhewell
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 686
Likes: 4
From: Austin Texas
Default

Originally Posted by DanielRicany
If you spray some starting fluid through the intake, do you get a different response from the engine? Almost likes its firing up?

No. Yet, there's spark at the coil. But, different plug wires , when I put a spark plug in the boots and crank it and observe them, the spark is visibly different on some than others
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2014 | 07:32 AM
  #11  
ChrisWhewell's Avatar
ChrisWhewell
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 686
Likes: 4
From: Austin Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Well...you checked at least ONE of the critical elements required to start and engine...ave you checked the other? Is there good fuel pressure?
41 psi
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2014 | 08:33 AM
  #12  
bassackwards's Avatar
bassackwards
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 663
Likes: 1
From: Nashville TN
Default

Originally Posted by dizwiz24


Bassackwards, werent you the guy in TN that i sold my old new old stock optispark, with custom vent, to?

I bet its still working good!
It's still in a box on the shelf.

OP if you have good spark at the coil and erratic coming out it could be the opti. I bought a car that wouldn't start and turns out the rotor fall off.

Your cap off the newer opti will fit the older one.
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2014 | 08:25 AM
  #13  
ChrisWhewell's Avatar
ChrisWhewell
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 686
Likes: 4
From: Austin Texas
Default

Originally Posted by bassackwards
It's still in a box on the shelf.

OP if you have good spark at the coil and erratic coming out it could be the opti. I bought a car that wouldn't start and turns out the rotor fall off.

Your cap off the newer opti will fit the older one.
Thanks. I'm pondering switching drives between the opti's, wondering if that's viable.

Or, get a new opti. In that case, oh great, another search and re-search. Help !! Anybody know what source is a good replacement opti for a '93 ??
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2014 | 09:39 AM
  #14  
lt4obsesses's Avatar
lt4obsesses
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,139
Likes: 482
From: H-Town Texas
Default

Okay, so we have good spark at the coil, and erratic spark at the plugs.

This tells me that your opti, at least on the low resolution side, the optical sensor, is functioning.

First, double check your plug wire connections, use a little dielectric grease on them. Also double check that all the wires are in the right place, as it can be easy to cross them at he opti. (I'd bet you already have, but it's worth stating) Particularly the connection of the coil wire going into the opti, it can be difficult.

It could be the distributor cap and/or the rotor. One of the main reasons they converted to a vacuum based vented design was the build up of gasses from the electrical spark that would cause the terminals to corrode.
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2014 | 09:47 AM
  #15  
ChrisWhewell's Avatar
ChrisWhewell
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 686
Likes: 4
From: Austin Texas
Default

Originally Posted by lt4obsesses
Okay, so we have good spark at the coil, and erratic spark at the plugs.

This tells me that your opti, at least on the low resolution side, the optical sensor, is functioning.

First, double check your plug wire connections, use a little dielectric grease on them. Also double check that all the wires are in the right place, as it can be easy to cross them at he opti. (I'd bet you already have, but it's worth stating) Particularly the connection of the coil wire going into the opti, it can be difficult.

It could be the distributor cap and/or the rotor. One of the main reasons they converted to a vacuum based vented design was the build up of gasses from the electrical spark that would cause the terminals to corrode.
Fudge it, I ordered an MSD 8381, $499 including overnight shipping only $25 extra. I'll button it back up and hopefully that was the problem, if not I won't worry about the Opti anymore for a while.
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2014 | 06:03 PM
  #16  
dizwiz24's Avatar
dizwiz24
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 14,659
Likes: 749
From: NEwhere Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by ChrisWhewell
Fudge it, I ordered an MSD 8381, $499 including overnight shipping only $25 extra. I'll button it back up and hopefully that was the problem, if not I won't worry about the Opti anymore for a while.
If that optispark from the 95 w/ 25000 miles is oem, I will buy it.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 06:39 AM
  #17  
ChrisWhewell's Avatar
ChrisWhewell
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 686
Likes: 4
From: Austin Texas
Default

Originally Posted by dizwiz24
If that optispark from the 95 w/ 25000 miles is oem, I will buy it.
OEM, yes. Its off a 95, the motor threw a rod bearing, motor had 28k on it, or 25k, I forget which. Its been in a freezer bag in my garage about 5 years. the resin looks nice shiny newm the bearing is tight, rest of it looks fresh. I have another opti off a 100k motor, its bearing is noticeablly loose, but its good for parts I guess. agent[at]inventorweb.com or 512 763-1142
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Quick opti question....





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:02 AM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE