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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 03:13 PM
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Well I finally got the parts together to renew the clutch hydraulics on my 94, the slave had been leaking for quite a while, I was having to top up the master every 100 miles or so, but there never seemed to be any pools of fluid under the car, so Im guessing it all ended up in the clutch housing.. this would probably account for the clutch slip on gears 3,4,5,and 6, gears 1 and 2 its fine and pulls like a train, while I know I've got to change out the clutch what Im wondering is, if the fluid has contaminated the clutch, has it done irreparable damage to the flywheel? or would it clean up?
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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Most, if not all fluid should stay on the inner wall of the housing and, eventually, drip out the drain hole in the inspection plate. If it's slipping, it's more likely to be related to your clutch.

Still, anything you find on the FW should clean up.

ZFDoc recommends using maroon scotch-brite to clean up the face of the FW. It works very well!
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Most, if not all fluid should stay on the inner wall of the housing and, eventually, drip out the drain hole in the inspection plate. If it's slipping, it's more likely to be related to your clutch.

Still, anything you find on the FW should clean up.

ZFDoc recommends using maroon scotch-brite to clean up the face of the FW. It works very well!
Clean it well with brake cleaner and scotch-brite several times and you should be fine.As long as you haven't really slipped the crap out of it you will be fine..
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nutz4c4
Clean it well with brake cleaner and scotch-brite several times and you should be fine.As long as you haven't really slipped the crap out of it you will be fine..
Ah! that sounds hopeful! cheers.. as soon as I started to notice the slipping I started treating the higher gears VERY carefully! I have little or no experience with any type of car clutch, by that I mean I've never had to work on one, but I've dealt with many bike clutches over the years, mostly old British bikes, so I know something about slipping! lol
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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When your cleaning it make sure you look for chatter marks and colorartion changes from hot spots etc. Now would be the time to resurface if it's not perfect.
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no resurfacing!!! the DMFW does not resurface well... contrary to others opinion...

First off, the tolerances are so damned tight that if you take .010 off the DM, it throws everything off... it is designed to accept the wear of the friction disc, but if you remove it from the FW, it is going to run out of tolerance that much faster.

Also, the DM simply doesn't like being machined. It can damage the mechanism inside the flywheel that makes it a DM.

I agree with the Scotchbrite and some cleaner... You can be aggressive by hand, and leave a random pattern... Shiny is good, orbital marks are good. If it's a bad spot, use a small orbital sander with the Scotchbrite to work it out, but don't go too nuts. Use a flat edge to look for friction material transfer.

Depending on miles, you can also do the same to the shiny surface of the pressure plate and simply replace the friction disc.

Keep in mind, the lifespan of the clutch assembly is about 95k normal driving miles. Lower if you race or beat the crap out of it. A flywheel can last up to 120k miles.
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Originally Posted by bogus
no resurfacing!!! the DMFW does not resurface well... contrary to others opinion...

First off, the tolerances are so damned tight that if you take .010 off the DM, it throws everything off... it is designed to accept the wear of the friction disc, but if you remove it from the FW, it is going to run out of tolerance that much faster.

Also, the DM simply doesn't like being machined. It can damage the mechanism inside the flywheel that makes it a DM.

I agree with the Scotchbrite and some cleaner... You can be aggressive by hand, and leave a random pattern... Shiny is good, orbital marks are good. If it's a bad spot, use a small orbital sander with the Scotchbrite to work it out, but don't go too nuts. Use a flat edge to look for friction material transfer.

Depending on miles, you can also do the same to the shiny surface of the pressure plate and simply replace the friction disc.

Keep in mind, the lifespan of the clutch assembly is about 95k normal driving miles. Lower if you race or beat the crap out of it. A flywheel can last up to 120k miles.
Thanks Bogus, good advice..duly noted! I'm just coming up to 70k, so there should be plenty left in it, it's always driven solid and well until around the time that damned slave started leaking! so hopefully a new clutch kit and a good clean up, and it should be good to go..
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Most, if not all fluid should stay on the inner wall of the housing and, eventually, drip out the drain hole in the inspection plate. If it's slipping, it's more likely to be related to your clutch.

Still, anything you find on the FW should clean up.

ZFDoc recommends using maroon scotch-brite to clean up the face of the FW. It works very well!
On this vintage C4 the actuator is outside the bellhousing with the slave cylinder. No fluid should get inside just the actuator rod through the rubber boot gets inside the bellhousing.

http://tech.corvettecentral.com/2007...1996-corvette/

Good luck with your repair.

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Originally Posted by 2VettesMike
On this vintage C4 the actuator is outside the bellhousing with the slave cylinder. No fluid should get inside just the actuator rod through the rubber boot gets inside the bellhousing.

http://tech.corvettecentral.com/2007...1996-corvette/

Good luck with your repair.

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Interesting Mike, so would you say the fork is in a separate compartment inside the bell housing from the clutch itself? as I said I've never had one of these apart before so I dont know one way or the other, but I DO know that when the slave came out I could quite easily get my finger in there and could feel the fork was soaked in fluid, so I'm guessing some of that fluid found its way onto the clutch it's self.
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Oooooh.... I know your problem.... REAR MAIN SEAL...

It's due.
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Oooooh.... I know your problem.... REAR MAIN SEAL...

It's due.
Something else to add to the shopping list.. easy or hard?
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