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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 01:16 PM
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Had to remove the headlight covers, now to reinstall them I need to move them up and down manually. The right one works fine but the left one will not move. After comparing the two, I noticed a difference in the linkage.
(See Pic) The part I circled is on the left side motor. On the right side motor this part is in a vertical position and does not move while the lite is opening and closing. On the left side that piece is loose and flops all around while trying to manually open or close the light. Can anyone help me out here and tell me what needs to be done. Appreciate any help.

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If you completely disassembled the assemblies, you're probably 180-deg off for the INNER RH rotating assembly. That pin on the end of the motor shaft sits in a slot. You can install the inner housing one-of-two ways. If you pick the wrong orientation, the assembly won't rotate -- as you've described.

If that's not it, you're holding your mouth wrong.
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If you completely disassembled the assemblies, you're probably 180-deg off for the INNER RH rotating assembly. That pin on the end of the motor shaft sits in a slot. You can install the inner housing one-of-two ways. If you pick the wrong orientation, the assembly won't rotate -- as you've described.

If that's not it, you're holding your mouth wrong.
Assemblies were never disassembled, and I was able to manually move them when I took the headlight covers off.
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob88Convertible
Assemblies were never disassembled, and I was able to manually move them when I took the headlight covers off.
Is there any chance you stripped the gear during disassembly/assembly? Will it rotate JUST by pushing the RA directly? (I'm asking if it will flop open/closed?)
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 08:53 PM
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If I recall right that peice you have circled is the motor stop. And it does look like it is not in the right position
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Is there any chance you stripped the gear during disassembly/assembly? Will it rotate JUST by pushing the RA directly? (I'm asking if it will flop open/closed?)
A few years ago I replaced the gears with the good brass ones, so I don't think so. Also, when I was initially moving the assembly so I could get the covers off everything worked fine. Tomorrow I am going to remove the whole assembly and try to find out if there is something wrong with the piece I circled in the picture, because it is just flopping around and the one on the right light stays in a fixed position. I'll update later, thanks for the help.
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob88Convertible
A few years ago I replaced the gears with the good brass ones, so I don't think so. Also, when I was initially moving the assembly so I could get the covers off everything worked fine. Tomorrow I am going to remove the whole assembly and try to find out if there is something wrong with the piece I circled in the picture, because it is just flopping around and the one on the right light stays in a fixed position. I'll update later, thanks for the help.
The part that you've circled is around the wrong way, the bent tabs are supposed to face in towards the assembly.
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The part that you've circled is around the wrong way, the bent tabs are supposed to face in towards the assembly.
Yup, you're right, but for some reason it really doesn't make any difference. That part has been that way for the last four years and everything worked perfectly, until I took off the covers. So here's what really happened. When I started to remove the headlight covers I saw that the assembly moved a little but at the time I didn't think a lot about it and I went ahead and removed the whole assembly to see what I needed to do to get the circled part on correctly.

When I laid the assembly on my bench, just for the hell of it I turned the **** and it worked perfectly. Right then I realized that the problem was with the headlight cover. When I was reinstalling the headlight cover I was real careful to have it align perfectly with the hood, but in doing so I had it too close and as a result as soon as I tried to manually move the assembly it was bound up and would not move. I made sure the headlight assembly was lined up perfectly with the opening and that there was clearance all around the headlight cover and everything works. Still not sure why it works with that circled part flopping around like that, but it's been that way so long now, I'm not going to worry about it.

So that's the dumbass update of the week. Oh well, live and learn. lol

If anyone was wondering why I was doing all this, here's a couple before and after pics.

Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob88Convertible
Yup, you're right, but for some reason it really doesn't make any difference. That part has been that way for the last four years and everything worked perfectly, until I took off the covers. So here's what really happened. When I started to remove the headlight covers I saw that the assembly moved a little but at the time I didn't think a lot about it and I went ahead and removed the whole assembly to see what I needed to do to get the circled part on correctly.

When I laid the assembly on my bench, just for the hell of it I turned the **** and it worked perfectly. Right then I realized that the problem was with the headlight cover. When I was reinstalling the headlight cover I was real careful to have it align perfectly with the hood, but in doing so I had it too close and as a result as soon as I tried to manually move the assembly it was bound up and would not move. I made sure the headlight assembly was lined up perfectly with the opening and that there was clearance all around the headlight cover and everything works. Still not sure why it works with that circled part flopping around like that, but it's been that way so long now, I'm not going to worry about it.

So that's the dumbass update of the week. Oh well, live and learn. lol

If anyone was wondering why I was doing all this, here's a couple before and after pics.

Bob
Glad to hear you got it sorted Bob.
However the orientation of that part does make a difference, even though the headlight will work with it the wrong way around.
The offset tab at either end of the link locates against the rivet/boss that can be partially seen in your picture.
I think the function of this tab is to provides the end stop positions for the drive motor, turn the manual **** by hand and you'll see what I mean.
If this part is installed backwards, the headlight will still operate because the link will (eventually) jamb/wedge itself against the rivet/boss, as seen in your picture.
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Originally Posted by Bandit1977
Glad to hear you got it sorted Bob.
However the orientation of that part does make a difference, even though the headlight will work with it the wrong way around.
The offset tab at either end of the link locates against the rivet/boss that can be partially seen in your picture.
I think the function of this tab is to provides the end stop positions for the drive motor, turn the manual **** by hand and you'll see what I mean.
If this part is installed backwards, the headlight will still operate because the link will (eventually) jamb/wedge itself against the rivet/boss, as seen in your picture.
I know what you are saying, but I have watched them open and close a number of times to see what that tab does. Because the tab is installed the wrong way it is free to spin completely around and doesn't touch anything. Not sure what that means but like I said it has been that way for three or four years. I guess one day I'll have to get ambitious and flip it around the other way and see what happens.
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