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Read previous thread. Cause of previous failure? New less invasive idea remove oil filter and cut in half look for "bad stuff". If you have access to bore scope. remove spark plugs and injectors of cylinders in question and take a look. Drain plug hole
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It's really hard to tell from a video on the internet. I recommend a stethescope, it will help you isoate and pinpoint where the sound is coming from. I had a lifter go bad, and the sound was similar, but the frequecy it became audible was around 3000 rpm, and was similar to yours. So, not sure if lifter is the thing.
I don't recall what trans your running, but that might be worth a look/listen as well. Pilot bearing, clutch fork, flywheel, these things can create noises as well and can be easily mistaken as engine noise in these cars.
As others have said it sounds crank speed almost like a rod hitting the windage tray or the dipstick/dipstick tube hitting a counterweight.
Will
Anything is possible. I would think if the crank or rod was hitting a windage tray it would have been evident at intitial start up. This thing does have 500miles on it. But there is always a possibility.
Originally Posted by lt4obsesses
It's really hard to tell from a video on the internet. I recommend a stethescope, it will help you isoate and pinpoint where the sound is coming from. I had a lifter go bad, and the sound was similar, but the frequecy it became audible was around 3000 rpm, and was similar to yours. So, not sure if lifter is the thing.
I don't recall what trans your running, but that might be worth a look/listen as well. Pilot bearing, clutch fork, flywheel, these things can create noises as well and can be easily mistaken as engine noise in these cars.
I have an actual doctor stethoscope that I used to try to isolate the tick but couldn't isolate it.
With the valve cover off push on # 6 & 8 intake and exhaust rockers while its running at idle with a 3 foot screwdriver and see what happens to the sound.
And is #6 or #8 rockers threaded down more than the others?
Anything is possible. I would think if the crank or rod was hitting a windage tray it would have been evident at intitial start up. This thing does have 500miles on it. But there is always a possibility.
I have an actual doctor stethoscope that I used to try to isolate the tick but couldn't isolate it.
Does it have the flat piece they use to check your heart, or the metal rod at the end? A mechanics scope is the same thing but with a a rod on the end, puch better at pin pointing engine noise. Just asking, not trying to be a jerk.
Does it have the flat piece they use to check your heart, or the metal rod at the end? A mechanics scope is the same thing but with a a rod on the end, puch better at pin pointing engine noise. Just asking, not trying to be a jerk.
I have the one to check your heart and breathing. So the auto stethoscope has a rod on the end to place on different areas? If you know where to get one, post a link.
I have the one to check your heart and breathing. So the auto stethoscope has a rod on the end to place on different areas? If you know where to get one, post a link.
OK, got a auto stethoscope from AutoZone today and when got home went probing. Now I am really confused. I didn't seem to narrow down the tick in the head where I thought the tick was coming from. The thing that was most prominent to me was a vibration on the bottom in the center of the Canton Road Race oil pan. Could this be something in the bottom hitting the oil pan or a wind age tray?
OK, got a auto stethoscope from AutoZone today and when got home went probing. Now I am really confused. I didn't seem to narrow down the tick in the head where I thought the tick was coming from. The thing that was most prominent to me was a vibration on the bottom in the center of the Canton Road Race oil pan. Could this be something in the bottom hitting the oil pan or a wind age tray?
Anyone ever experienced something like this?
Ithink someone mentioned this earlier. What I find strange though, is that it hasn't shown up for 500 miles. Don't the road race pans have baffles in them to control oil slosh? I wonder if one of those baffles got knocked lose or misaligned somehow?
The thing that was most prominent to me was a vibration on the bottom in the center of the Canton Road Race oil pan. Could this be something in the bottom hitting the oil pan or a wind age tray?
YES! That is what some people have tried to tell you.
Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Sounds like it's happening at crank shaft speed to me...not cam (lifter) speed.
Originally Posted by WW7
What it really sounds like now that I've listened to it again, is the crank touching the windage tray..Did it make this noise from the first start up, or did it happen later after driving it awhile??.....WW
Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
BINGO! The frequency is wrong for it to be a cam issue. Said that already, back in post #5
Originally Posted by rklessdriver
Does not sound like valve train to me.
As others have said it sounds crank speed almost like a rod hitting the windage tray or the dipstick/dipstick tube hitting a counterweight.
Will
YES! That is what some people have tried to tell you.
Yes, there were some suggestions of this and it seems you guys have some good ears for this. I am going to look to the bottom end now but it may take a little time before I can get to it.
Pull the oil filter off and dump it out or cut it open and look for METAL.
That will determine if the noise is internal or external.
No metal, and I would look at the flywheel/clutch area.
assuming it is a manual transmission, i would double check the clutch inspection cover for flywheel interference It only takes a small tweak and it will hit
assuming it is a manual transmission, i would double check the clutch inspection cover for flywheel interference It only takes a small tweak and it will hit
assuming it is a manual transmission, i would double check the clutch inspection cover for flywheel interference It only takes a small tweak and it will hit
I hope that is all it is. But I feel it is deeper than that.
Mine had a ticking noise and it turned out to be the crank walking in the block.Thrust bearing was toast and the motor was soon after.Not comparing an 85k mile motor to yours but it did happen to mine.
Well, just got a call a little while ago and luckily we are not looking at an engine tick. May be a weight from the flywheel or clutch. Keep you posted so if you ever hear this tick and eliminate things as I have you can have another direction to look.