Leak down test help
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Melting Slicks
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Leak down test help
Hi guys. I have a 1985 Corvette. I also have AFR 195 Eliminator heads.
My timing chain broke and took out 3 valves.
Here were my leak down test results from before I pulled the heads off with the bent valves.
1. 20%
2. 13%
3. 95% intake
4. 13%
5. 95% exhaust
6. 15%
7. 95% exhaust
8. 20%
I took my heads to the machine shop and had a valve job done on both heads.
When I bolted the heads on, I took another leak down test. The engine is cold and I haven't ran it yet. I did wipe oil on the cylinder walls, and there is no oil in it right now.
About 3 of my cylinders were above 30% with a peak of 36%. The lowest cylinder I believe was 17%. I was just wondering if this is a normal result for a cold engine with new head gaskets and a fresh valve job? Is there a time it takes to seat in?
Thank you.
My timing chain broke and took out 3 valves.
Here were my leak down test results from before I pulled the heads off with the bent valves.
1. 20%
2. 13%
3. 95% intake
4. 13%
5. 95% exhaust
6. 15%
7. 95% exhaust
8. 20%
I took my heads to the machine shop and had a valve job done on both heads.
When I bolted the heads on, I took another leak down test. The engine is cold and I haven't ran it yet. I did wipe oil on the cylinder walls, and there is no oil in it right now.
About 3 of my cylinders were above 30% with a peak of 36%. The lowest cylinder I believe was 17%. I was just wondering if this is a normal result for a cold engine with new head gaskets and a fresh valve job? Is there a time it takes to seat in?
Thank you.
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That's a lot of leakage, especially if you oiled the cylinder walls. The fresh heads should seal completely; the valves should be tight on their seats. Can you tell where the air is leaking? exhaust, throttle body, valve cover filler cap? The air is going somewhere.
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Through the valves. I sprayed some PB blaster into the intake port on the cylinder that has 36%. Put the leak down tester on it. Here's a video of what happened. http://youtu.be/KH7r0SwNCh0
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...... Did you adjust the valves before the second leakdown ? If so , you may have done it wrong ... its easy to screw up using the spin the pushrod method and you wind up with valves off seats instead of just pre-loaded .........
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No I didn't have the rocker arms on when I did this test.
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They are all leaking. With 130lbs closing pressure, a closed valve is closed. My money is on a lously valve job. After a good valve job is done, alcohol can be poured on the top of the valve. There should be no leakage.
Last edited by 383vett; Sep 7, 2014 at 01:39 PM.
100%. That video tells the story....assuming clean assembly.
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I poured lacquer thinner in the ports of the valves and it didn't leak through, but it still leaks on the engine...
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I made a little break through. I poured a little bit of oil into cylinder 6 which had 36% leak down. That's also the affected cylinder in the video or the valve with the PB blaster bubbling. Now when I did the test again, it now has 18% leak down. So is the amount of air escaping get out of the valves acceptable for a cold leak down test if the oil dropped it significantly?
Thanks guys
Thanks guys
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Called the machinist, told me to run the motor for 10 minutes and check again. Said the valves have to seat... I'm doing a compression test on all cylinders now. Getting pretty decent results and the only cylinder i put oil in was number 6. Also there's no oil in the motor during this test. I'll post the results in a few minutes when I finish.
Last edited by DanielRicany; Sep 8, 2014 at 05:01 PM.
