Datalogging with Moates ALDU Help needed
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Datalogging with Moates ALDU Help needed
I have the cable thing and got Tunerpro RT. I hate the interface and it isn't intuitive. So, is there something better? It becomes difficult to run the car for long period in the winter since it is garaged. TIA
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The hardest part of TunerPro for me was setting up the COM port and making a connection. This thread goes into that:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1586779188
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1586779188
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I downloaded the file Super_8dm2.ecu and had it imported.
I downloaded the file 1227730_8D.ads
Where do I find the files to load in the steps where it says 3 files?
Now to load the files .bin,.xdf,.adx: Where to find them?
I downloaded the file 1227730_8D.ads
Where do I find the files to load in the steps where it says 3 files?
Now to load the files .bin,.xdf,.adx: Where to find them?
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Does anyone have a simpler and less aggravating solution to data log? I tried the Actron line but it doesn't read my 91 corvette. I used Diacom eon's ago and it was intuitive and easy. I tried the free version of tunerpro but they said you can't read live data on the car.
Why do I need Montes and tunerpro if I don't tune? What if I sent it back and found an easier system to use? What is the loss there? Does anyone know of a hand held scanner that is reasonable? Or how about a simple piece of software that will be easier to use? Or is there a piece of software that has better documentation with step by step instructions? I don't care how free tunerpro is if it is that aggravating. If I paid for data master, is it easier to use since it isn't free and supposedly they put more work into making it user friendly?
Why do I need Montes and tunerpro if I don't tune? What if I sent it back and found an easier system to use? What is the loss there? Does anyone know of a hand held scanner that is reasonable? Or how about a simple piece of software that will be easier to use? Or is there a piece of software that has better documentation with step by step instructions? I don't care how free tunerpro is if it is that aggravating. If I paid for data master, is it easier to use since it isn't free and supposedly they put more work into making it user friendly?
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I'm looking at Datamaster but it seems like you have to record it and can't view it live? Is there something that can besides my old autoxray that is broken? Diacom is wonderful but kinda pricy for a one vehicle use and the more I try, unsuccessfully, I might add, with TunerPro RT, the more I hate it.
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Reloaded the software and deleted everything else. Followed the LT1 site but no joy.
Got new instructions:
Got new instructions:
1. Download the $8D ADS file.
2. Open TunerPro RT and plug your USB cable into your computer
3. Drag and drop the $8D ADS file into the main TunerPro window to import it into the newer ADX format.
4. When it prompts you to save the new 8D.ADX file, save it to the location of your choice
5. Open up TunerPro preferences (Tools->Preferences)
6. On the Data Acq / Emulation tab, on the Data acquisition side, set the Interface Type to "Use Plugin", set the plugin to "TunerPro Data Acquisition I/O Interface"
7. Click "Configure Plug-in COmponent" and set it to "Standard Serial" and select the COM port that the cable is installed to. Only active COM ports will be available in the list.
8. With the cable unplugged from the vehicle but plugged into the PC, hit the "Test for Valid Interface" button. It should report success if you've selected the correct COM port.
9. Click OK buttons until you're back to the main TunerPro program
10. Hook the cable up to your vehicle. Turn the key on, but leave the engine off until you confirm you're getting valid data.
11. Click the connection button (two blue, opposing arrows) in the toolbar. Look for "Connected" in the status bar at the bottom of the window.
12. If you see "Not connected" after the connection attempt, try again. It might take a few tries to hook up, especially if your Vette has a digital dash.
13. Once you see Connected, open the Dashboard (Ctrl + Shift + 1) and Item lists (Ctrl + Shift + 2)
14. Move the throttle and verify that the throttle position value changes as expected.
If you get through that and see valid data, you should be good to go.
2. Open TunerPro RT and plug your USB cable into your computer
3. Drag and drop the $8D ADS file into the main TunerPro window to import it into the newer ADX format.
4. When it prompts you to save the new 8D.ADX file, save it to the location of your choice
5. Open up TunerPro preferences (Tools->Preferences)
6. On the Data Acq / Emulation tab, on the Data acquisition side, set the Interface Type to "Use Plugin", set the plugin to "TunerPro Data Acquisition I/O Interface"
7. Click "Configure Plug-in COmponent" and set it to "Standard Serial" and select the COM port that the cable is installed to. Only active COM ports will be available in the list.
8. With the cable unplugged from the vehicle but plugged into the PC, hit the "Test for Valid Interface" button. It should report success if you've selected the correct COM port.
9. Click OK buttons until you're back to the main TunerPro program
10. Hook the cable up to your vehicle. Turn the key on, but leave the engine off until you confirm you're getting valid data.
11. Click the connection button (two blue, opposing arrows) in the toolbar. Look for "Connected" in the status bar at the bottom of the window.
12. If you see "Not connected" after the connection attempt, try again. It might take a few tries to hook up, especially if your Vette has a digital dash.
13. Once you see Connected, open the Dashboard (Ctrl + Shift + 1) and Item lists (Ctrl + Shift + 2)
14. Move the throttle and verify that the throttle position value changes as expected.
If you get through that and see valid data, you should be good to go.
Last edited by aklim; Dec 12, 2014 at 07:53 PM.
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Got till step 10 but no further. So far, it flashes between "DA Connected" and "DA Data Error". With the Key off, it just keeps trying to connect. Tried this several times. It tests out good so far when you ask the program to interrogate the system.
If you run the car, you get wild numbers like 48 volts and 20 volts for TPS, etc, etc.
If you run the car, you get wild numbers like 48 volts and 20 volts for TPS, etc, etc.
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Some background info might be helpful to understand what and why.
The ECM spits out a series of numbers. Things like RPM, MPH, etc. The order and meaning of the numbers changed from year to year. This is why you need a template file that matches your ECM and the programming code in it. That file is the .ADS file. They updated it to a newer format (which apparently does more things) called a .ADX file.
The .BIN file (for binary) is the actual programming code in your ECM. You only need that if you are changing the code for some reason. The most popular changes are to eliminate VATS and change the coolant fan turn on temperature.
If you're not getting valid data then you probably have the wrong .ADS or .ADX file for your car. That explains why you get wacko numbers for various parameters.
The reason that Diacom is so easy is that you put in your VIN number and it figures all this stuff out based on that. I use Diacom myself and whoever wrote it did an excellent job. It does have some weird quirks and it's sometimes a pain to navigate through the options, but in general it's very good.
The ECM spits out a series of numbers. Things like RPM, MPH, etc. The order and meaning of the numbers changed from year to year. This is why you need a template file that matches your ECM and the programming code in it. That file is the .ADS file. They updated it to a newer format (which apparently does more things) called a .ADX file.
The .BIN file (for binary) is the actual programming code in your ECM. You only need that if you are changing the code for some reason. The most popular changes are to eliminate VATS and change the coolant fan turn on temperature.
If you're not getting valid data then you probably have the wrong .ADS or .ADX file for your car. That explains why you get wacko numbers for various parameters.
The reason that Diacom is so easy is that you put in your VIN number and it figures all this stuff out based on that. I use Diacom myself and whoever wrote it did an excellent job. It does have some weird quirks and it's sometimes a pain to navigate through the options, but in general it's very good.
Last edited by Cliff Harris; Dec 21, 2014 at 11:09 PM. Reason: Fixed spelling error.
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OK. While I run the dash and get readings, without something like a Tech1 or my old AutoXray, I can't remember if the values are right for the conditions. The thing that is causing issues is that TPRT keeps going in and out so I don't have confidence. It will be "connecting DA" for a bit then flicker about 1Hz rate between "DA Connected" and "DA Data Error" so I can't be sure it is doing anything right.
I tried the new file from CaptainKawasaki HERE in post 7
I tried the new file from CaptainKawasaki HERE in post 7
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try a100 from here http://www.tunerpro.net/gmOBDI.htm
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CaptainKawasaki's file: $8D-1227727-1990Corvette.adx shows all 8 gauges seems ok, doesn't show PromID but values are close to the others. Refresh rate is reasonable. Still cycles between DA Data Error and DA Connected
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Is that in the file itself or a setting? I can't find that setting in "Preferences".
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Datamaster is what I use for datalogging...You can get it to use "20 times free" to see if you like it...You can view it live , or just sit it on the seat next to you , record everything , and view it later...I also have a Auto X ray 6000, but Datamaster gives way more information, and automatically saves the recorded file to view later...Give Datamaster a try , I think you'll like it better then Tuner Pro for datalogging..
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Last edited by WW7; Dec 14, 2014 at 09:41 AM.