Tilt lock repair
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Burning Brakes
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From: That one city...you know that one. Idaho
Tilt lock repair
I finished reassembling my steering column yesterday after fixing the lose bearing and worn tilt pins. Now I have a problem I cant find and answer to from searching. I have only found results for lose screws, bad bearings, incorrectly assembled bearing, or worn pivot pins.
The tilt adjustment wont lock. I can move the wheel up, and down the same way as if pulling the tilt lever with out touching it.
The tilt adjustment wont lock. I can move the wheel up, and down the same way as if pulling the tilt lever with out touching it.
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I finished reassembling my steering column yesterday after fixing the lose bearing and worn tilt pins. Now I have a problem I cant find and answer to from searching. I have only found results for lose screws, bad bearings, incorrectly assembled bearing, or worn pivot pins.
The tilt adjustment wont lock. I can move the wheel up, and down the same way as if pulling the tilt lever with out touching it.
The tilt adjustment wont lock. I can move the wheel up, and down the same way as if pulling the tilt lever with out touching it.
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...ck_Rebuild.pdf
This is a Fiero column with some differences in column-lock but all else is very basic Saginaw.
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Burning Brakes
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From: That one city...you know that one. Idaho
That spring is installed correctly. For some reason I always get the weird problems. It looks like I need to disassemble it again to try and fix this new problem.
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Burning Brakes
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I have the column apart again. The detents are there, but will not catch the pin on the other side to lock the column. They try and catch, but if I bump the wheel they wont hold.
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Go back to the .pdf at maybe page 26 or so and it's described pretty well. Maybe start at page 23 and then go forward. I don't think the detents are actually engaged and the housing ready for the pivot pins until maybe page 30.
3F5B-14, 15 or maybe 16 in the FSM depending on year.
Last edited by WVZR-1; Mar 6, 2015 at 04:35 PM.
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You'll have to remove the tilt pivot pins to start over and I believe you realize and have done that or you couldn't see the detents.
Patience LOL
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-1994-CHEVY-PONTIAC-OLDS-GMC-BUICK-TILT-STEERING-COLUMN-HOUSING-ASSEMBLY-/150846936253?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item231f2d94bd&vxp=mtr
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Burning Brakes
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From: That one city...you know that one. Idaho
I learned something new. There are at least two different designs for the detents, and at least two different pin setups. I replaced the part of the tilt housing you linked, and it does not have the correct detents. The lower half of the tilt has 2 pins with different sizes. The replacement housing is setup for one pin in the lower half.
Its not as good as I was hoping but better then it was before, and it works now.
Its not as good as I was hoping but better then it was before, and it works now.
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"http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/images/d/d6/Jazzman_Steering_Rack_Rebuild.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...ck_Rebuild.pdf
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http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...ck_Rebuild.pdf
Yep. Dave has provided one of the best guides to rebuilding the Saginaw columns available. I used it to rebuild a '90 model Jeep tilt with great results. Since the tilt Saginaw is in all GM and most Jeep vehicles of our era, the Jazzman .pdf is very useful. I wish it woulda been a Vette collapsible column but that part isnt hard either.
Yep. Dave has provided one of the best guides to rebuilding the Saginaw columns available. I used it to rebuild a '90 model Jeep tilt with great results. Since the tilt Saginaw is in all GM and most Jeep vehicles of our era, the Jazzman .pdf is very useful. I wish it woulda been a Vette collapsible column but that part isnt hard either.
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http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...ck_Rebuild.pdf
Yep. Dave has provided one of the best guides to rebuilding the Saginaw columns available. I used it to rebuild a '90 model Jeep tilt with great results. Since the tilt Saginaw is in all GM and most Jeep vehicles of our era, the Jazzman .pdf is very useful. I wish it woulda been a Vette collapsible column but that part isnt hard either.
Yep. Dave has provided one of the best guides to rebuilding the Saginaw columns available. I used it to rebuild a '90 model Jeep tilt with great results. Since the tilt Saginaw is in all GM and most Jeep vehicles of our era, the Jazzman .pdf is very useful. I wish it woulda been a Vette collapsible column but that part isnt hard either.
http://jimshea.corvettefaq.com/?cat=5
Nearly anything Saginaw related can be absorbed from his very well documented papers. Gear boxes and racks also.