Beefing up an 84 Crossfire Engine?
#1
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Beefing up an 84 Crossfire Engine?
Evening all,
My 84 hasn't been driven in awhile, 2 years in fact, but am about to put her back on the road and want to "beef her up" a bit before I do.
The old Crossfire has 75,000 miles on it and while it runs very well I am becoming disenchanted with the power it produces, 225 BHP. What I'd like to do is give it a bit more get up and go and perhaps up the HP to the low/mid 300 HP.
I have considered dropping in a new custom built motor (450 HP) for around $5,000 but if there is a cheaper way of bringing new life to this motor I would be interested (very interested) in hearing any advice.
Basically, what can I do to increase the HP and general performance without having to be Bill Gates to do it?
My 84 hasn't been driven in awhile, 2 years in fact, but am about to put her back on the road and want to "beef her up" a bit before I do.
The old Crossfire has 75,000 miles on it and while it runs very well I am becoming disenchanted with the power it produces, 225 BHP. What I'd like to do is give it a bit more get up and go and perhaps up the HP to the low/mid 300 HP.
I have considered dropping in a new custom built motor (450 HP) for around $5,000 but if there is a cheaper way of bringing new life to this motor I would be interested (very interested) in hearing any advice.
Basically, what can I do to increase the HP and general performance without having to be Bill Gates to do it?
#2
Evening all,
My 84 hasn't been driven in awhile, 2 years in fact, but am about to put her back on the road and want to "beef her up" a bit before I do.
The old Crossfire has 75,000 miles on it and while it runs very well I am becoming disenchanted with the power it produces, 225 BHP. What I'd like to do is give it a bit more get up and go and perhaps up the HP to the low/mid 300 HP.
I have considered dropping in a new custom built motor (450 HP) for around $5,000 but if there is a cheaper way of bringing new life to this motor I would be interested (very interested) in hearing any advice.
Basically, what can I do to increase the HP and general performance without having to be Bill Gates to do it?
My 84 hasn't been driven in awhile, 2 years in fact, but am about to put her back on the road and want to "beef her up" a bit before I do.
The old Crossfire has 75,000 miles on it and while it runs very well I am becoming disenchanted with the power it produces, 225 BHP. What I'd like to do is give it a bit more get up and go and perhaps up the HP to the low/mid 300 HP.
I have considered dropping in a new custom built motor (450 HP) for around $5,000 but if there is a cheaper way of bringing new life to this motor I would be interested (very interested) in hearing any advice.
Basically, what can I do to increase the HP and general performance without having to be Bill Gates to do it?
If I owned an 84 which I'd like to one day especially for how affordable they have become, here's what I would do. Port match the intake( I hear that alone is good for for 20hp),
have the throttle body's rebuilt and balanced, long tube headers, springs and 1.6rr's, update that nylon timing gear set with a steel replacement, fresh tune up with new coil/plugs/wires. Think this would cost alot less than replacing the engine and really wake it up. Especially if you do the work yourself. Good luck
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If I owned an 84 which I'd like to one day especially for how affordable they have become, here's what I would do. Port match the intake( I hear that alone is good for for 20hp),
have the throttle body's rebuilt and balanced, long tube headers, springs and 1.6rr's, update that nylon timing gear set with a steel replacement, fresh tune up with new coil/plugs/wires. Think this would cost alot less than replacing the engine and really wake it up. Especially if you do the work yourself. Good luck
have the throttle body's rebuilt and balanced, long tube headers, springs and 1.6rr's, update that nylon timing gear set with a steel replacement, fresh tune up with new coil/plugs/wires. Think this would cost alot less than replacing the engine and really wake it up. Especially if you do the work yourself. Good luck
Appreciate your input, cheers.
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Interesting. I just bought an '84 that has a 383 bottom end and Edelbrock Performer heads. Supposedly, the intake has been port-matched, but I can't verify. Unfortunately, it still has the stock Crossfire system and totally lays down at 3500 RPM.
Kind of thinking of swapping to a carb while save for an LS swap.
Kind of thinking of swapping to a carb while save for an LS swap.
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Interesting. I just bought an '84 that has a 383 bottom end and Edelbrock Performer heads. Supposedly, the intake has been port-matched, but I can't verify. Unfortunately, it still has the stock Crossfire system and totally lays down at 3500 RPM.
Kind of thinking of swapping to a carb while save for an LS swap.
Kind of thinking of swapping to a carb while save for an LS swap.
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If you still have the stock TBIs on a 383, even with the stock intake ported, you are restricted by the size of the bores on the TBIs. There used to be a shop in Arizona that could bore the TBIs and increase the airflow. You would have to tune of course. Sorry, I don't recall the name of the shop but... they were also involved with the "Renegade" intake for Cross-Fires.
#9
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If you can tbi a 454 you can boost that current system to feed a 383.
If its falling on its face horrible at 3500 you have something wrong besides throttle body size.
Two Crossfire Throttle bodies bored to 2.375" will flow over 1,000 CFM. The biggest thing isn't air needs its injector size for that kind of mod.
Summit racing has aftermarket intakes for them now too. So I wouldn't ditch the crossfire if it was me.
But back to the falling on its face part. I bet something is not right somewhere causing your problems. So more diagnosing less replacing
If you can tbi a 454 you can boost that current system to feed a 383.
If its falling on its face horrible at 3500 you have something wrong besides throttle body size.
Two Crossfire Throttle bodies bored to 2.375" will flow over 1,000 CFM. The biggest thing isn't air needs its injector size for that kind of mod.
Summit racing has aftermarket intakes for them now too. So I wouldn't ditch the crossfire if it was me.
But back to the falling on its face part. I bet something is not right somewhere causing your problems. So more diagnosing less replacing
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I would not carb it either. The TBI system can be made to run good. It just takes persistence and finding the right combination. Going to a carb requires a lot of other changes that greatly complicate the project. To me, your laydown at 3500 RPM sounds like another fuel pressure problem, should be 13 psi or so under acceleration, but trying to diagnose at a distance is always risky. Have you checked fuel pressure?
#11
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No.
If you can tbi a 454 you can boost that current system to feed a 383.
If its falling on its face horrible at 3500 you have something wrong besides throttle body size.
Two Crossfire Throttle bodies bored to 2.375" will flow over 1,000 CFM. The biggest thing isn't air needs its injector size for that kind of mod.
Summit racing has aftermarket intakes for them now too. So I wouldn't ditch the crossfire if it was me.
But back to the falling on its face part. I bet something is not right somewhere causing your problems. So more diagnosing less replacing
If you can tbi a 454 you can boost that current system to feed a 383.
If its falling on its face horrible at 3500 you have something wrong besides throttle body size.
Two Crossfire Throttle bodies bored to 2.375" will flow over 1,000 CFM. The biggest thing isn't air needs its injector size for that kind of mod.
Summit racing has aftermarket intakes for them now too. So I wouldn't ditch the crossfire if it was me.
But back to the falling on its face part. I bet something is not right somewhere causing your problems. So more diagnosing less replacing