Loss of power at 6th gr
#21
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Yes I wanted to confirm it was an LT5.. the LT5 has a second key in the console for full power, I assume that is 'on'
if the SES (Service Engine Soon/ Check Engine) came on and you lost power it could be Code 61, port throttle error..
what are all the codes you have been able to retrieve?
EDIT.. post on code 61 for LT5
http://zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14932
if the SES (Service Engine Soon/ Check Engine) came on and you lost power it could be Code 61, port throttle error..
what are all the codes you have been able to retrieve?
EDIT.. post on code 61 for LT5
http://zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14932
I could not see much of a difference between on and off even before these problems started. The vacuum pump works fine. It has no major leaks.. when the ignition is ON it will start for 1 sec every 30 seconds or so.. But I doubt it is the secondary valve system.. tha car has problems in idle also and it would stall mostly in low end rpm... not the other way around.
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#22
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I can now confirm it is not the fuel.
I have taped the manometer on the windshield during drive and during driving and all the stalling - the pressure holds good 42 psi..
I guess this rules out the fuel?
What's next? New sprak plugs, cables and coils?
I have taped the manometer on the windshield during drive and during driving and all the stalling - the pressure holds good 42 psi..
I guess this rules out the fuel?
What's next? New sprak plugs, cables and coils?
#23
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Then I took it for a short spin.. it managed to cut off completely at 100 mph (then I shifted from 4th to a neautral).. lost steering.. but started it fast and went on.. same problems. Sometimes it would not take off from low rpm from 3rd or 4th.. or even 2nd..
This time with key on it took it only to 40 psi and held there.. otherwise all the same. tried a couple of time key on and off.. still just to 40 psi (maybe because the car was warm now?).
I did notice however that with eninge off within a few minutes the pressure would climb very slowly up all the way to 50 psi? Is this normal?
I have to lenghten the hose somehow it somehow.Would the catalytic mess also at low speed? Say doing 20-30 mpg and tryig to take off from 3rd gear for example..
This time with key on it took it only to 40 psi and held there.. otherwise all the same. tried a couple of time key on and off.. still just to 40 psi (maybe because the car was warm now?).
I did notice however that with eninge off within a few minutes the pressure would climb very slowly up all the way to 50 psi? Is this normal?
I have to lenghten the hose somehow it somehow.Would the catalytic mess also at low speed? Say doing 20-30 mpg and tryig to take off from 3rd gear for example..
Catalytic converters (that are clogged) basically cause problems at larger throttle openings. If a converter is clogged, the more air the engine wants to flow, the more of a symptom the converter will create. The symptoms will be; Lack of power, LOTS of intake/induction noise. The symptom is typically very, very consistent; every time you open the throttle, you get a "bog" and lots of intake sound. Typically, the engine will run smoothly thought -at low throttle openings it would run normally and smoothly, and during the symptom, it would run smoothly too...just w/no power and lots of intake sound. It would not likely shut the motor off. So based on they symptoms I've seen you describe, it doesn't seem like clogged cat(s).
EDIT: Copy on the fuel pressure. Good work. When the symptom occurs does the engine run erratically? Or smoothly (but lacking power)?
#24
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It is mostly when I try to drive normally.. i.e. take it up to 2.5 - 3k rpm, shift up.. and then as it tries to take off from 1.5 rmp it stalls like it completely clogged.. regardless if I press hard or just lightly.. speed drops and sometimes it would suddenly take off as it should.. but sometimes I have to shift back down, and revv it much higher, so I can shift up again..
I now it is hard to understand the symptoms from my writings and limited English vocabulary.. I have ordered new spark plugs tomorrow and I will try to make a video so you can see and hear for yourselves if there's no improvement after the change.. just to rule them out.
I have just checked the cables in the dark and they seem fine.. sprayed some water even to see if smth happens..
#25
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Sounds like your fuel pressure is good. Have you checked for a good blue spark at the plugs? I'm not a great mechanic but I would start there. Maybe use a timing light with an induction pickup to make sure every plug is getting spark? Just my two cents.
Maybe a video with with audio would help?
Maybe a video with with audio would help?
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May have multiple problems going on if youre getting the err msg
Bad injectors, as the car gets warmer will miss even more
If they are original plan on replacing them with some Rcs.
You really need to post this stuff up on the zr1.net forum that will be your best source of info to eliminate some headache and guessing
Bad injectors, as the car gets warmer will miss even more
If they are original plan on replacing them with some Rcs.
You really need to post this stuff up on the zr1.net forum that will be your best source of info to eliminate some headache and guessing
#27
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I'd check (ohm) the injectors, test the Throttle position sensor, and observe the tach signal when the missing is occurring.
#28
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Alright next up will be the injectors.. but I'll probably have to order these from the US.
Today I am changing the plugs.. what is the normal gap? 0.9 - 1.2 mm?
Today I am changing the plugs.. what is the normal gap? 0.9 - 1.2 mm?
Last edited by Earendil; 08-18-2015 at 07:57 AM. Reason: error converting measurements
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#30
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What is this for?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8lx3la6ac1...24.30.jpg?dl=0
Looks wobbly , but the contacts inside seem fine. Throttle position?
Where is the MAF? Thought to try with MAF disconnected..
Spark plugs did not change a thing..
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8lx3la6ac1...24.30.jpg?dl=0
Looks wobbly , but the contacts inside seem fine. Throttle position?
Where is the MAF? Thought to try with MAF disconnected..
Spark plugs did not change a thing..
#31
Melting Slicks
well, it is low mileage, but it's still a 93; changing the plugs didn't help, but I'd change the pug wires also, at that age the insulation and the conductor (assuming OEM) will have hardened up and produced a zillion micro cracks which drive resistant way up, and may even allow voltage to escape. Also, change the fuel filter; age hardens the element on those too and restricts fuel flow, especially at high engine loads.
before you can diagnose some issue, you need to have a good baseline to start; i.e. a through tune up, and then go from there.
Good luck; it sounds like you have an awesome ride.
before you can diagnose some issue, you need to have a good baseline to start; i.e. a through tune up, and then go from there.
Good luck; it sounds like you have an awesome ride.
#32
Melting Slicks
I believe so. Your English is okay, friend.
I read on Marc Haibeck's web site about problems with the secondary throttle system. As suggested, the ZR1 boys may chime in with more remedies.
http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...es%20index.htm
Checking the injectors as Tom suggested is a great idea.
I read on Marc Haibeck's web site about problems with the secondary throttle system. As suggested, the ZR1 boys may chime in with more remedies.
http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...es%20index.htm
Checking the injectors as Tom suggested is a great idea.
#33
Intermediate
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Managed to pull out err.51 from the ECM. No idea what to do with it?
Deleted some other codes as well.. 02 sensor, poor fuel mixture.. they did not reappeared after a short drive, but the "51" error is permanent.
Some kind of memory chip error? ideas?
Deleted some other codes as well.. 02 sensor, poor fuel mixture.. they did not reappeared after a short drive, but the "51" error is permanent.
Some kind of memory chip error? ideas?
#34
Melting Slicks
I loaned a CF member my manual so cannot look up the code; also have no experience with '93s.