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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 05:17 PM
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I have a 1986 C4, when I have the AC on, I feel a vibration in the engine that changes with the engine RPM. The air was working fine, but I changed the compressor anyway, thinking that would fix the vibration, but it didn't. I replaced the belt tensioner, that didn't change anything either. I've checked for loose brackets, and anything that might be rubbing the compressor, but I haven't been able to find anything that appears to be wrong. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 05:24 PM
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Did you change the belt?
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 06:23 PM
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Did you change the belt?
Did you make sure your high and low side pressures are in the proper ranges. you might have a clogged orifice or some other part. If pressures are not rite it can cause a high effort on the A/C pump pistons. Take a second look. Also when you replaced the Compressor did you just bleed off the gas throw in the compressor and just refill with one of those do it yourself fill kit, don't get me wrong refilling yourself kits are OK when used properly but when you open the System it needs to be drawn down and evacuated.

The proper amount of gas and A/C oil also needs to be used

After though was the a/c system properly converted from R-12 to R-134? I doubt most people have any R-12 still around the house stuffs kind of Rare to find now.

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Have you looked at the tensioner when the vibration is happening?
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
Did you change the belt?
Yes, the belt was changed in the last year
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by s carter
Did you make sure your high and low side pressures are in the proper ranges. you might have a clogged orifice or some other part. If pressures are not rite it can cause a high effort on the A/C pump pistons. Take a second look. Also when you replaced the Compressor did you just bleed off the gas throw in the compressor and just refill with one of those do it yourself fill kit, don't get me wrong refilling yourself kits are OK when used properly but when you open the System it needs to be drawn down and evacuated.

The proper amount of gas and A/C oil also needs to be used

After though was the a/c system properly converted from R-12 to R-134? I doubt most people have any R-12 still around the house stuffs kind of Rare to find now.

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The pressures are correct, I did wonder if there could be too much Freon in the system, so I was running the engine as I drained off the old, The vibration never went away. As for the new compressor, I haven't fully charged it, (only 2 cans), so I'm sure that it isn't over charged. I just have the feeling that the vibration is caused by something external, ???

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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lugnut67
The pressures are correct, I did wonder if there could be too much Freon in the system, so I was running the engine as I drained off the old, The vibration never went away. As for the new compressor, I haven't fully charged it, (only 2 cans), so I'm sure that it isn't over charged. I just have the feeling that the vibration is caused by something external, ???
The system was evacuated properly, for an hour
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 11:37 AM
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Have you looked at the tensioner when the vibration is happening?
Thanks, I'll pay closer attention to that this morning.... That would be an indicator if the vibration is from the compressor, or something else external like I've been thinking
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Keep in mind it doesn't take much to pick up a resonant Vibration, a hole slightly oversized or elongated could cause vibration..

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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lugnut67
Yes, the belt was changed in the last year
Still could be bad.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 08:09 AM
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I recall a factory service bulletin on R4 compressor noises. It called for some added bracing for other cars and trucks to eliminate the vibration. Don't know if they came up with a modification for Corvettes. I have an 85 and it makes an awful vibration at certain low RPM. I have replaced the compressor several times, and they all do it. I wish there was a good fix for this.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 08:31 AM
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I had a similar problem. Replaced the A/C compressor bearing and the noise was the same. Turned out to be a small crack in the compressor aluminium mounting bracket. A previous mechanic had removed and replaced the compressor but did not replace the long bolt that goes through the bracket and into the block. Hard to reach behind the compressor pulley.

Over time, forces on the bracket cracked it. That bolt must always be reinstalled.

The test is to very carefully press down on the belt tensioner arm with a long piece of wood, and observe the compressor bracket for a crack, or a change in the noise.
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 357L98
I recall a factory service bulletin on R4 compressor noises. It called for some added bracing for other cars and trucks to eliminate the vibration. Don't know if they came up with a modification for Corvettes. I have an 85 and it makes an awful vibration at certain low RPM. I have replaced the compressor several times, and they all do it. I wish there was a good fix for this.
Thanks, it is sounding like my problem isn't unique. The vibration isn't terrible, but it is in the RPM range that I usually drive. I would be very interested to know if anyone else knows anything about any bracing, maybe a replacement bracket ???
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by linuxenigma
I had a similar problem. Replaced the A/C compressor bearing and the noise was the same. Turned out to be a small crack in the compressor aluminium mounting bracket. A previous mechanic had removed and replaced the compressor but did not replace the long bolt that goes through the bracket and into the block. Hard to reach behind the compressor pulley.

Over time, forces on the bracket cracked it. That bolt must always be reinstalled.

The test is to very carefully press down on the belt tensioner arm with a long piece of wood, and observe the compressor bracket for a crack, or a change in the noise.
Thanks, sounds like we might be closing in on something. I've changed the compressor myself, but didn't check for any cracks. All of the bolts are in place and tight, doesn't mean that it isn't cracked though. I'll check it like you described, sounds like a great check. I was listening to the vibrations through all of the brackets, and it was sounding louder at the smog pump, that had me really scratching my head. I couldn't figure how the AC could affect vibrations at the other side of the engine.
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My vibration is just off idle, about 900 RPM, doesn't do it any other time. I have looked for ways to come up with another brace for the compressor, but never could figure out a way to attach anything. It may be possible to retrofit a totally different type of compressor in there, but I would not really want to do that.
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 02:27 PM
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Not sure about your model, but on the 95 there are 2 braces that go from the compressor to the exhaust manifold. The PO of my car installed shorty headers and didn't reinstall the braces. I purchased a set of used braces here and the vibration went away after installation.
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Originally Posted by 357L98
My vibration is just off idle, about 900 RPM, doesn't do it any other time. I have looked for ways to come up with another brace for the compressor, but never could figure out a way to attach anything. It may be possible to retrofit a totally different type of compressor in there, but I would not really want to do that.
I know, everything fits so tight I couldn't imagine trying to fit something else in that spot. Apparently there was a factory mod for those cars. I hope someone knows how to find those parts.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by csthews
Not sure about your model, but on the 95 there are 2 braces that go from the compressor to the exhaust manifold. The PO of my car installed shorty headers and didn't reinstall the braces. I purchased a set of used braces here and the vibration went away after installation.
Do you have any idea how I can get those braces ?? Or, could you post a picture of the braces that you have on your car ??
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I also have a slight vibration that I can feel too when my A/C is on on my 1985. It's barely noticeable, and only happens from idle to 1500 RPMs. I figured it was my cam causing the vibration because the engine bumps around a lot more with a cam. I'm not worried about it. But maybe next time my compressor is off, I'll check for cracks.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 03:28 PM
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It doesn't sound like your cam is going to be the problem. I took mine off just to check, there wasn't any problem with the bracket. I cleaned the mounting surfaces and tightened all of the bolts evenly, then I put rubber between the smog pipes and anything that they come close to. The vibration seems a little better, but hasn't gone away. Now I have a stalling problem. It is showing a #42 code which is suppose to be for the automatic timing control. Could be the ECM, I've changed the ignition module. I can't seem to catch up with this thing ????
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