1992 Steering Column rebuild help
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1992 Steering Column rebuild help
Hey All,
I have a couple of questions I'm hoping someone can help with.
Pulling out the 4 hairs left on my head trying to fix my 92 column.
Does the hole at the bottom on the steering shaft need to be visible (nothing blocking it). I thought the bolt to connect it to the steering rack goes there?
In Jammers sticky thread, picture 21 is the hole in question.
Anybody know where this white plastic part goes?
The FSM manual does not show it in the exploded view.
If you go to Steering Wheel Services Web site it looks like it's part number 93. (http://www.steeringcolumnservices.co...d=Tilt&c=6010v)
Any thoughts what its called and where to get a new one?
Does this black plastic part look like it's in the right place and correct orientation. The spring would go on next then the retainers?
Thanks for any wisdom you can impart.
Regards,
Roy
I have a couple of questions I'm hoping someone can help with.
Pulling out the 4 hairs left on my head trying to fix my 92 column.
Does the hole at the bottom on the steering shaft need to be visible (nothing blocking it). I thought the bolt to connect it to the steering rack goes there?
In Jammers sticky thread, picture 21 is the hole in question.
Anybody know where this white plastic part goes?
The FSM manual does not show it in the exploded view.
If you go to Steering Wheel Services Web site it looks like it's part number 93. (http://www.steeringcolumnservices.co...d=Tilt&c=6010v)
Any thoughts what its called and where to get a new one?
Does this black plastic part look like it's in the right place and correct orientation. The spring would go on next then the retainers?
Thanks for any wisdom you can impart.
Regards,
Roy
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1. The hole does not need to be visible. The bolt does not go through the hole. It should look like the picture in Jammers sticky thread. I don't know why the steering shaft has a hole in it. I put a large screwdriver through the hole and used it to hold the shaft while pushing on the retainers.
2. My 90 also had that part number "93" in the column. My 90 FSM also does not show that part for some reason. My 90 had some type of thick paper like washer/gasket attached to the "93" part number. The paper like washer/gasket basically disintegrated and was more like saw dust. I couldn't figure out the use for the part so I just left it out.
3. The black plastic part is in the correct orientation. Yes, the spring goes on next and then the two retainers. It looks like your lower steering shaft may have telescoped some into the upper shaft. You should be able to gently pull the lower shaft back out a little with some pliers. Try not to hammer on the shaft. Pull it out to where it looks like Jammers thread picture.
Hope that helps some.
Mark
2. My 90 also had that part number "93" in the column. My 90 FSM also does not show that part for some reason. My 90 had some type of thick paper like washer/gasket attached to the "93" part number. The paper like washer/gasket basically disintegrated and was more like saw dust. I couldn't figure out the use for the part so I just left it out.
3. The black plastic part is in the correct orientation. Yes, the spring goes on next and then the two retainers. It looks like your lower steering shaft may have telescoped some into the upper shaft. You should be able to gently pull the lower shaft back out a little with some pliers. Try not to hammer on the shaft. Pull it out to where it looks like Jammers thread picture.
Hope that helps some.
Mark
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Thanks Mark,
I had to order a new ignition tumbler.
The insulation on both wires near the tumbler looks like they were pinched. The wire is exposed, may be the reason I saw smoke from the steering wheel before the tear down.
Regards,
Roy
I had to order a new ignition tumbler.
The insulation on both wires near the tumbler looks like they were pinched. The wire is exposed, may be the reason I saw smoke from the steering wheel before the tear down.
Regards,
Roy
1. The hole does not need to be visible. The bolt does not go through the hole. It should look like the picture in Jammers sticky thread. I don't know why the steering shaft has a hole in it. I put a large screwdriver through the hole and used it to hold the shaft while pushing on the retainers.
2. My 90 also had that part number "93" in the column. My 90 FSM also does not show that part for some reason. My 90 had some type of thick paper like washer/gasket attached to the "93" part number. The paper like washer/gasket basically disintegrated and was more like saw dust. I couldn't figure out the use for the part so I just left it out.
3. The black plastic part is in the correct orientation. Yes, the spring goes on next and then the two retainers. It looks like your lower steering shaft may have telescoped some into the upper shaft. You should be able to gently pull the lower shaft back out a little with some pliers. Try not to hammer on the shaft. Pull it out to where it looks like Jammers thread picture.
Hope that helps some.
Mark
2. My 90 also had that part number "93" in the column. My 90 FSM also does not show that part for some reason. My 90 had some type of thick paper like washer/gasket attached to the "93" part number. The paper like washer/gasket basically disintegrated and was more like saw dust. I couldn't figure out the use for the part so I just left it out.
3. The black plastic part is in the correct orientation. Yes, the spring goes on next and then the two retainers. It looks like your lower steering shaft may have telescoped some into the upper shaft. You should be able to gently pull the lower shaft back out a little with some pliers. Try not to hammer on the shaft. Pull it out to where it looks like Jammers thread picture.
Hope that helps some.
Mark
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It's important that the two components are from either the "same column" or were purchased as a "matched set" from a vendor that understands Saginaw columns. I believe there are as many as 3 pawl/pin arrangements through the years. Maybe only two but I believe I was told more than ..
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See pages 27 thru maybe 31 or so for an explanation. Aside from this column being an "earlier" Saginaw the assembly of the components is nearly identical. The critical components are identical.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...4UiMLJBIw1fqQw
It's important that the two components are from either the "same column" or were purchased as a "matched set" from a vendor that understands Saginaw columns. I believe there are as many as 3 pawl/pin arrangements through the years. Maybe only two but I believe I was told more than ..
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...4UiMLJBIw1fqQw
It's important that the two components are from either the "same column" or were purchased as a "matched set" from a vendor that understands Saginaw columns. I believe there are as many as 3 pawl/pin arrangements through the years. Maybe only two but I believe I was told more than ..
Thanks that's going to be a real help
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Hello All,
So I'm still fussing with trying to rebuild my column.
I have a couple of questions hopefully somebody can answer.
1 -> I know this is going to sound odd, and most of you are going to think this is obvious.
How can I be sure the tilt function is working properly before putting all back together.
I have the upper and lower housing connected and the pins partially installed.
When I pull on the tilt leaver, nothing seems to be happening.
Not sure if it because the column is not secure or I still don't have the rebuilt right.
2 -> Any idea why these wires on the cruise stalk would have melted like this? Would you repair the wires or replace the stalk?
The wires go to the small connector.
As always, thank you for your patience of the not so mechanically inclined.
Roy
So I'm still fussing with trying to rebuild my column.
I have a couple of questions hopefully somebody can answer.
1 -> I know this is going to sound odd, and most of you are going to think this is obvious.
How can I be sure the tilt function is working properly before putting all back together.
I have the upper and lower housing connected and the pins partially installed.
When I pull on the tilt leaver, nothing seems to be happening.
Not sure if it because the column is not secure or I still don't have the rebuilt right.
2 -> Any idea why these wires on the cruise stalk would have melted like this? Would you repair the wires or replace the stalk?
The wires go to the small connector.
As always, thank you for your patience of the not so mechanically inclined.
Roy
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You need to finish the pin install and then lock the column in a vice to confirm the tilt operation. Are the mating halves (upper/lower) the ones from the original column or are they from various other columns?
The wiring is a "your call" type of thing. It's your car and if you elect to cut/splice if done correctly and staggered the worst you would have to do is a stalk later. Toss a coin maybe?
The wiring is a "your call" type of thing. It's your car and if you elect to cut/splice if done correctly and staggered the worst you would have to do is a stalk later. Toss a coin maybe?
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They are both new.
Lower from Davies.
Upper from local Chevrolet parts Department.
Any thoughts what might have caused them to melt like that?
Thanks,
Roy
Lower from Davies.
Upper from local Chevrolet parts Department.
Any thoughts what might have caused them to melt like that?
Thanks,
Roy
You need to finish the pin install and then lock the column in a vice to confirm the tilt operation. Are the mating halves (upper/lower) the ones from the original column or are they from various other columns?
The wiring is a "your call" type of thing. It's your car and if you elect to cut/splice if done correctly and staggered the worst you would have to do is a stalk later. Toss a coin maybe?
The wiring is a "your call" type of thing. It's your car and if you elect to cut/splice if done correctly and staggered the worst you would have to do is a stalk later. Toss a coin maybe?
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I used an extra large phillips head screw driver to push down on the spring cap. It fit in the square hole of the cap so I could twist it once I got it seated. I also put the tilt in the "up" position first which helped take some tension off the spring.
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I'm trying with a large phillips head, just can't apply enough downward force to compress the spring to get the cap down far enough to engage the cap.
The spring is really stiff.
Thanks,
Roy
The spring is really stiff.
Thanks,
Roy
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