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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 04:54 PM
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My 1985 non Z51 has developed a steering problem. The car drives fine, could use an alignment but otherwise is pretty normal. At times over certain bumps the steering begins to vibrate and I need to use two hands to control until it stops, then it is fine again. This usually happens when I hit bumps at over 30MPH. There is a little give in the steering column but I am not sure if that is the issue or something in the suspension. There is no play with the front wheel bearings the rubber bushings are a little worn but see intact. The car has 139K miles.
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My 1985 non Z51 has developed a steering problem. The car drives fine, could use an alignment but otherwise is pretty normal. At times over certain bumps the steering begins to vibrate and I need to use two hands to control until it stops, then it is fine again. This usually happens when I hit bumps at over 30MPH. There is a little give in the steering column but I am not sure if that is the issue or something in the suspension. There is no play with the front wheel bearings the rubber bushings are a little worn but see intact. The car has 139K miles.
I'd say you're way over due for at least 4 ball joints and likely much more. I'd say it needs "parked" until you correct it.
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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
I'd say you're way over due for at least 4 ball joints and likely much more. I'd say it needs "parked" until you correct it.
it's not worth a life.
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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
it's not worth a life.
This is true but also check hood for movement when closed if it even moves 1/8th inch it will vibrate the whole car. It is adjustable of course.
Check all bushings and joints too
If it hasn't been balancing the fronts can be a good idea.
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I'd say you're way over due for at least 4 ball joints and likely much more. I'd say it needs "parked" until you correct it.
What is the procedure for checking the ball joints? The grease fittings look good and there is no play in the wheels. Any other suggestions?

Thanks for all of the great advice.
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What is the procedure for checking the ball joints? The grease fittings look good and there is no play in the wheels. Any other suggestions?

Thanks for all of the great advice.
I'm not familiar with MA safety inspections but with the situation you mention I'd think it would be "money well spent" to have the front-end checked by a competent shop that will discuss the results and maybe show you the why it needs service.

I believe this comprehensive check might save you money in the long run.

Asking for a front-end alignment isn't what you need.

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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 09:20 AM
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did you pick it up? If you take it in for a alignment they will point out what you need and then some!!!!!!! For free do the work yourself or get a firm grip on your ankles

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did you pick it up? If you take it in for a alignment they will point out what you need and then some!!!!!!! For free do the work yourself or get a firm grip on your ankles
The OP's original post appeared to be that of someone maybe les than experienced regarding suspension components and I don't know that anything less than a check by a "COMPETENT" shop/individual would satisfy his needs. Not knowing the MA "safety inspection" requirements I suggested a "for hire" inspection. I still maintain it's required and money "well spent".

If MA "safety inspection requires a through inspection and report perhaps it might suffice but I'd think a "for hire" still best.

I don't know that the "grab your ankles" is justified.
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 10:52 AM
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Shocks.


I completely agree with WVZR-1 that it would be a good idea to have the front suspension checked by a "professional", but when I first got my car, it did what you're describing, slightly...it was due to the car having the original shocks @150k miles.

MA safety should most certainly include checking ball joints, tie rod ends, bearings, bushings, etc....but there are plenty who don't.
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
The OP's original post appeared to be that of someone maybe les than experienced regarding suspension components and I don't know that anything less than a check by a "COMPETENT" shop/individual would satisfy his needs. Not knowing the MA "safety inspection" requirements I suggested a "for hire" inspection. I still maintain it's required and money "well spent".

If MA "safety inspection requires a through inspection and report perhaps it might suffice but I'd think a "for hire" still best.

I don't know that the "grab your ankles" is justified.

30+ year building new cars and trucks at G.M. over 10 years on the frame line doing every job means every day I put together more than most will in a lifetime. .Any place that can evan do a C4 alingment right should be COMPETENT. As he takes it apart he will be able to inspect and replace most likley a complet front end rebuild.

And anytime you pay someone to work on a vette over doing it yourself you are going to pay. You could ask for a kiss first if it makes you feel better.

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I replaced the shocks with Bilsteins when I noticed the problem, it did not solve it.
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In Mass all they do is lift the car and shake the wheel looking for play.
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I agree it need to be look at by someone that knows what thier doing alot of good shops that do alingment very few can do a c4 find one that has the shims and just don't do a toe and go. they will not be able to do it and will tell you why for no charge. then might offer to fix it. I agree that a inspection would be more in detail but will cost. that money could be used for parts. not here to insult anyone just trying to help.

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This sounds like you have a worn front end component (Some where) and when you hit the Bump this sets off a Resonant Frequency, this should be considered as very Dynamic and Dangerous, but not necessarily hard or expensive to fix. I'd have it looked at if your not sure what to do, or inspect..
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