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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 10:40 PM
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I've been having problems with the digital reading coolant temperature from a new-ish water pump I installed. Temps hit 255 on the highway at low rpms (5th an 6th gear) on the highway.... obviously way too hot and I've had to pull over way too many times and have seriously gotten lucky with no problems other than that. The analog gauge from the heads never pick up more than 230 which is I think why.

Temps never go above 230 at idle on the digital and if I run 4th gear on the highway (3000 rpms) the reading stabilizes at 205. Dont really wanna run that high of rpm to keep the engine cool.

I'm thinking my best option is to convert to the meziere electric pump either standard or heavy duty. This should keep my temps more stable with the constant flow. However, I'm concerned about the battery not being able to hold up with my subs and small amplifier in the back. Has anyone had any any problems with a situation like this? I've searched around and not found too many answers just yet.
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Is it pumping in the right direction and is it clean between your radiator?

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What thermostat, Fan settings still stock, Both fans operating properly high and low speed, air bled out, Radiator clean, air dam spoiler still in place?

My 10-12 year elect pump died at the track and had an intermittent overheat issue last season. I think it was starting and stopping at will. When I replaced it it defiantly had play and a flat spot while turning. New one in and runs 170-180 like normal. I run a 160 stat, lower fan temp settings, BeCool rad. (temps were always fine with stock rad)

If the power, ground are reversed, the pump will run backwards.

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I'm thinking my best option is to convert to the meziere electric pump either standard or heavy duty. This should keep my temps more stable with the constant flow. However, I'm concerned about the battery not being able to hold up with my subs and small amplifier in the back. Has anyone had any any problems with a situation like this? I've searched around and not found too many answers just yet.
I believe that if you've an appropriately sized alternator, the amp etc are wired using appropriate gauge cable etc and the added electric pump is wired appropriately (cable/relay etc) then you would have no issues. Stock wiring, alternator etc with no provisions for proper additional accessories I'd think near certain failure of something.

"RichS" asks/mentions things you need to check/do and I would suggest the same also.
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What thermostat, Fan settings still stock, Both fans operating properly high and low speed, air bled out, Radiator clean, air dam spoiler still in place?

My 10-12 year elect pump died at the track and had an intermittent overheat issue last season. I think it was starting and stopping at will. When I replaced it it defiantly had play and a flat spot while turning. New one in and runs 170-180 like normal. I run a 160 stat, lower fan temp settings, BeCool rad. (temps were always fine with stock rad)

If the power, ground are reversed, the pump will run backwards.
I should have said the pump in there right now is mechanical.

Its a 195 thermostat( will change to at least 180) everything else is also stock still ( fan settings ,radiator..). A new air dam is in place. I've cleaned out plastic bags and other crap from the air dam and radiator before however after you guys mentioned it again i found a thread which explains that you really need to disconnect it and hose it down.

Looks like thats probably my starting point so thanks for pointing that out again!
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Do search on the on off temp for stock lt fans. They are high and the car stock runs hotter then you think it should for emissions. They don't go on high speed till around 225/230, I forget the exact numbers off hand.
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Originally Posted by RottenApple311
I should have said the pump in there right now is mechanical.

Its a 195 thermostat( will change to at least 180) everything else is also stock still ( fan settings ,radiator..). A new air dam is in place. I've cleaned out plastic bags and other crap from the air dam and radiator before however after you guys mentioned it again i found a thread which explains that you really need to disconnect it and hose it down.

Looks like thats probably my starting point so thanks for pointing that out again!
let us know how it comes out.
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Originally Posted by RottenApple311
I should have said the pump in there right now is mechanical.

Its a 195 thermostat( will change to at least 180) everything else is also stock still ( fan settings ,radiator..). A new air dam is in place. I've cleaned out plastic bags and other crap from the air dam and radiator before however after you guys mentioned it again i found a thread which explains that you really need to disconnect it and hose it down.

Looks like thats probably my starting point so thanks for pointing that out again!
I believe everyone understood you were "mechanical" and now that you've mentioned the 195° and the fact that this is an LT1 and is spec'd for a 180° you could very well help your situation.

You mention some unusual RPM's for a stock car so there's likely to be gears. What ratio is the rear now?
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Originally Posted by RottenApple311
I've been having problems with the digital reading coolant temperature from a new-ish water pump I installed. Temps hit 255 on the highway at low rpms (5th an 6th gear) on the highway.... obviously way too hot and I've had to pull over way too many times and have seriously gotten lucky with no problems other than that. which is I think why.

Temps never go above 230 at idle on the digital and if I run 4th gear The analog gauge from the heads never pick up more than 230on the highway (3000 rpms) the reading stabilizes at 205. Dont really wanna run that high of rpm to keep the engine cool.

I'm thinking my best option is to convert to the meziere electric pump either standard or heavy duty. This should keep my temps more stable with the constant flow. However, I'm concerned about the battery not being able to hold up with my subs and small amplifier in the back. Has anyone had any any problems with a situation like this? I've searched around and not found too many answers just yet.
255° in any gear on the highway is too high! I find it odd that the analog readout is so much cooler then the digital, considering the probe screws directly into one of the hottest component on the engine. It would be nice to get an IR reading of the area near the digital coolant probe below the water pump, and compare this against the digital readout. In your driveway of course!
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Originally Posted by RottenApple311
I should have said the pump in there right now is mechanical.

Its a 195 thermostat( will change to at least 180) everything else is also stock still ( fan settings ,radiator..). A new air dam is in place. I've cleaned out plastic bags and other crap from the air dam and radiator before however after you guys mentioned it again i found a thread which explains that you really need to disconnect it and hose it down.

Looks like thats probably my starting point so thanks for pointing that out again!
you absolutely need to get the radiator out and cleaned properly. Lowering the thermostat will have zero effect with the heating problem you are having. Your's probably looks like this

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