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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 09:56 PM
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Whoever the person was that changed my oil filter last time must have put in on with impact wrench. Can't get if off with my oil filter wrench. Guess I will have to buy bigger heavy duty one tomorrow. To loosen it, is counter clock wise, correct? Keep running into small problems which is slowing down my head gasket repair
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:08 PM
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Yes, CCW.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:29 PM
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it is possible to get a Hydro-lock. on a filter. Many years ago. I destroyed a filter. trying to remove. It was locked on. due to bearing failure. enough to expand the oil filter. The Standard. saying. lefty loosy, righty tighty. CCW. sounds better!

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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:33 PM
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Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty

Get a strap wrench, they work very well.

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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:35 PM
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I have a great big pair of channel locks or drive a big screw driver through them.
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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 01:27 AM
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I went with driving a screwdriver though it when mine got stuck.
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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 03:55 AM
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when I first bought my 69 corvette, I went to change out the filter. seems like some genius from one of those quickie lube places put the filter on without first applying a little oil to the rubber gasket. I tried all of the standard removal tools without much luck, in fact, somewhat collapsed the filter. tried the screw driver trick, and all that did was rip apart the filter can. I pretty much had to destroy everything and get the filter down to the screw-on base. ended up inserting a couple 1/4-20 bolts in the base's drain holes, 180 apart, and using a small pry bar to unscrew the base from the engine. that turned into a 4 hour job -- probably the worse case scenario. good luck....

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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 04:55 AM
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I had that issue with my 87 convertible when I bought it. Took a 6 foot cheater bar and a special oil filter wrench that basically crushed the filter in the process.

Wife pulled on the end of the 6 foot bar while I was under the car making sure the wrench stayed on the filter. Hardest filter I have ever removed.
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Had one on my bobcat I took a chisel to the rim and tapped until it came loose.
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Originally Posted by THE 383 admiral
it is possible to get a Hydro-lock. on a filter. Many years ago. I destroyed a filter. trying to remove. It was locked on. due to bearing failure. enough to expand the oil filter. The Standard. saying. lefty loosy, righty tighty. CCW. sounds better!
The sealing gasket swells up from oil.
But, if you look at the top of the filter shell there's a flat area. If the filter is ever over pressurized the flat area becomes rounded. This picture shows the differences in the dome.
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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
The sealing gasket swells up from oil.
But, if you look at the top of the filter shell there's a flat area. If the filter is ever over pressurized the flat area becomes rounded. This picture shows the differences in the dome.
never seen a filter balloon up like that - WOW! pretty sure one of a filter's design characteristics is burst pressure. kind of like to know what fram's burst pressure vs the pressure required to distort the can. IIRC, delco filter specs have burst pressure at 80PSI, but can't swear to it. also, never heard of the (rubber) sealing gasket swelling up to the point where it would put the filter into a bind. I've never experienced swelled gasket problem.
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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
The sealing gasket swells up from oil.
But, if you look at the top of the filter shell there's a flat area. If the filter is ever over pressurized the flat area becomes rounded. This picture shows the differences in the dome.
that is very similar. my oil filter expansion. was even more extreme. I do not recall the filter seal swelling up. as show. If i can recall. I actually. changed. with a new filter. fired the car up. instant expansion. I did pull the engine apart. all of the bearings had worm like wear pattern. to many years ago.
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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe C
when I first bought my 69 corvette, I went to change out the filter. seems like some genius from one of those quickie lube places put the filter on without first applying a little oil to the rubber gasket. I tried all of the standard removal tools without much luck, in fact, somewhat collapsed the filter. tried the screw driver trick, and all that did was rip apart the filter can. I pretty much had to destroy everything and get the filter down to the screw-on base. ended up inserting a couple 1/4-20 bolts in the base's drain holes, 180 apart, and using a small pry bar to unscrew the base from the engine. that turned into a 4 hour job -- probably the worse case scenario. good luck....
Had the same issue with my BB 69 some 40+ years ago. Had to do the same thing. Destroy the filter down to the base, then used a pair of needle nose pliers in the drain holes along with a big old wrench to turn the needle nose pliers.
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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
Had one on my bobcat I took a chisel to the rim and tapped until it came loose.
If the gasket is bonded to the mounting base, which is making the filter difficult to remove, this actually might help... banging around the ridge of the filter canister near the gasket to flex/vibrate the gasket and help it free up.

Once you puncture the canister with a screwdriver, the integrity is gone and it will crush easily next time pressure is applied with a filter wrench or channel locks/vice grip.
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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 02:34 PM
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Just had the same problem on a used Jeep I bought. Picked up this tool from Harbor Freight. It worked great.
http://t.harborfreight.com/automotiv....google.com%2F
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Originally Posted by Pete919
Just had the same problem on a used Jeep I bought. Picked up this tool from Harbor Freight. It worked great.
http://t.harborfreight.com/automotiv....google.com%2F
Looks like a torture device. Probably works like a champ... if that thing was wrapped around me, I'd want to get outta here for sure.
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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 06:08 PM
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Hi
If you have the oil cooler above the filter, don't be surprised if it all comes loose or off in one piece.
Just refit the oil cooler and gasket and tighten the filter adapter, just thought to mention this in so you don't get a surprise.
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Originally Posted by Pete919
Just had the same problem on a used Jeep I bought. Picked up this tool from Harbor Freight. It worked great.
http://t.harborfreight.com/automotiv....google.com%2F

Got a tool like this and got it off

Cut filter apart, looked thru it and used a magnet, but didn't find any metal shavings
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Put a thick 1/4 inch wide rubber band on the filter. It will keep your wrench from slipping.
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Anyone had problem with the K&N and the big nut at the bottom? I use that for the Vette and the Powerstroke. For the Powerstroke, you hand turn till it won't go and then crank till you cannot or it will leak
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