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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 01:44 AM
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From what I have been reading here, it seems like the GM 195 hp engine is a good replacement one for the L83 on the 84 Vette, it seems to have a camshaft with a similar duration and you can use the stock ecm. I am planning on buying that engine and using a Renegade manifold with bored throttle bodies and bigger injectors( I am already using a 1985 pump ) I am planning on putting the engine on a stand and use a new harness if I can find where to get one, I am not concerned with having a lot of hp, just good drive ability.
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Originally Posted by jose7740
I am planning on putting the engine on a stand and use a new harness if I can find where to get one.
Like this?: http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcatalog/tpb

They don't list an 84 on that page, but bet there's a chance they have something available.

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Actually my original harness is still in good condition, I wanted one to attach it the new engine while on the stand but it is not a must have, I have a mechanic that I think he can make one. The main objective is the new engine, do you think is a good choice along with the Renegade manifold?
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 12:54 PM
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Well I looked over the spec sheet for the L83 and the GEN 0 crate motor #10067353 is as close as you can get. It has no alterations as far as I can see to work correctly. But u will need your Corvette water pump (short) and flywheel/flex plate. Install a new dampener to as now is the time to do it.

Any of the higher HP GM crate motors will take more conversion parts and more likely a tune also.

As for any inexpensive mods it would require removing those heads. But cheap tricks are pocket porting the heads which should cost no more than $250 and a 3 angle vlv job. Have the p-rod slots opened up for 1.6 rocker arms for added lift/torque. And use a thin sheet metal heat gasket like FelPro which is only 0.015" thick to give u some quench and a little bit more compression.

BTW I still have GEN 0 crate block in my '74 but different heads and cam - can't beat that price.
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Doesn't feel painful to say Corvette and 195 hp. in the same sentence? That is a worse power to weight ratio than a Miata.
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Thank you for those tips, I am checking with the engine supplier about the warranty on it.
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Originally Posted by ddahlgren
Doesn't feel painful to say Corvette and 195 hp. in the same sentence? That is a worse power to weight ratio than a Miata.
I think that with the Renegade manifold, I can get a few more horses to get them above the original 205 hp.
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 02:04 PM
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OP: good luck with your result, let us know how it turns out. Pictures are always good

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Doesn't feel painful to say Corvette and 195 hp. in the same sentence? That is a worse power to weight ratio than a Miata.
Yes the late 1970s and early 1980s were the dark days of performance.
The Corvette was gravely affected, along with many other good cars. Fortunately the torque of the pushrod V8 (torque the Miata is sorely missing) helps the 195HP feel like more than it is. And nowadays we have more freedom to modify those poor engines to produce significantly more than stock power.

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Just my opinion and I've said it before, I'd get a long or short block that comes with a roller cam.
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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
Just my opinion and I've said it before, I'd get a long or short block that comes with a roller cam.
plus an oil pan and flywheel / flexplate for a one piece rear seal crankshaft
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all good points but for the money hard to beat. Id chance $ on a GM piece before any mail order or ebay deal.

Sure it costs more but imo worth it

In their warranty paperwork may/may not say something about an authorized installer have your mechanic look into it. Being as you arent turning any rpm you can probbaly beat on it all day and not worry about it.

I dont care how cheap most mail orders are they are only as good as the machining and the hourly ?? slapping them together. Not saying GM is perfect but less risky perhaps

Anyone notice they still sell flat tappet cam motors?
sure wish the aftermarkets could get the same quality metals spending 1000 to go HR for a stock or mild motor not worth it to me

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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
Just my opinion and I've said it before, I'd get a long or short block that comes with a roller cam.
Have you considered a "Vortec" long block? That would get you a roller cam, 1 piece seal, and good heads.

Don't waste your time/$$ on Bore'd throttle bodies. They won't make a diff at your power level.
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According to the engine seller, 36 months on vehicles 1985 and prior, anything else 12 months parts only, they list the Corvette up to the year 1982, don't know why the 1984 is not covered for the 36 months parts and labor.
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