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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 09:07 PM
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i own 1989 Z51 6 spd. It started to backfire and stall. It will idle for ever and it accelerates well. But, slow down and it will backfire and stall. Good compression, plugs look great. They are new, wires are new.

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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 09:56 PM
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Check your fpr for fuel in the vacuum line. And clean your throttle body.

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Check your fpr for fuel in the vacuum line. And clean your throttle body.
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I am guessing that FPR is fuel pressure regulator. Check it? remove the line a smell for gas. If so is the fpr nfg? thank you
clean the throtle body. spray fuel injector cleaner into the tBI?

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I am guessing that FPR is fuel pressure regulator. Check it? remove the line a smell for gas. If so is the fpr nfg? thank you
clean the throtle body. spray fuel injector cleaner into the tBI?

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Yes if it has fuel in it replace and smell for fuel in the oil.
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
Yes if it has fuel in it replace and smell for fuel in the oil.
I was reading an article on backfiring. It said that backfiring in the exhaust is unburned fuel and that on a car with an air pump the GULP valve(s) may be bad. I am thinking that the gulp valve the way that the article describes them are the two valves fed by the AIR pump. I am also thinking that if I plug the lines to the valves and the backfire may stop.
The article also mentioned a lean code. My mechanic said the car had lean code.
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Originally Posted by jseremba
I was reading an article on backfiring. It said that backfiring in the exhaust is unburned fuel and that on a car with an air pump the GULP valve(s) may be bad. I am thinking that the gulp valve the way that the article describes them are the two valves fed by the AIR pump. I am also thinking that if I plug the lines to the valves and the backfire may stop.
The article also mentioned a lean code. My mechanic said the car had lean code.
Any ideas comments. Thank you
sounds like it is dumping fuel just do the free tests first might even be a o2 sensor. Can you get a scanner on it while it happens?
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
sounds like it is dumping fuel just do the free tests first might even be a o2 sensor. Can you get a scanner on it while it happens?
I have the scanner software for the ALDI connector will that give me any information. The O2 sensor has about 1000 miles on it. Thank you for the help
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 09:09 PM
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update.
I disconnected the two valves. And now the misfire is GONE HOORAH!!

Can I remove the AIR pump? Will the CEL stay on for ever if I do. Thank you
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hello guys i'm from europa and i'm new in this forum and i need help with my amcar. after i cut catalistic converter,blocked egr and deleted smog pump my corvette crossfire1984 starts backfires through the tbi's. i checked compression, tested ignition timing 6 degrees,fuel pressure 12 psi, map,o2,tps,temp sensors works good. new spark plugs and wires new distributor new intake manifold gaskets,new iac. adjusted valves. no fault codes. and still this samme problem. i have no ideas what i can check more. please help me to solve that problem. i promise big beer box for good help. p.s sorry for my english
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hello guys i'm from europa and i'm new in this forum and i need help with my amcar. after i cut catalistic converter,blocked egr and deleted smog pump my corvette crossfire1984 starts backfires through the tbi's. i checked compression, tested ignition timing 6 degrees,fuel pressure 12 psi, map,o2,tps,temp sensors works good. new spark plugs and wires new distributor new intake manifold gaskets,new iac. adjusted valves. no fault codes. and still this samme problem. i have no ideas what i can check more. please help me to solve that problem. i promise big beer box for good help. p.s sorry for my english
Typically this is a cam shift/valve train problem. This happened to me. What you should do is remove the valve covers and then put a socket wrench on the crank shaft bolt, 5/8", and slowly by hand rotate the engine. You will probably see that one of the intake valves is not opening. To determine the cylinder 1. run the car. 2.remove a spark plug wire. if the backfire does not go away replace the wire and remove the next wire. When you get to the cylinder that is backfiring. The backfire will stop. Then remove the valve cover and check. Could be a broken push rod or loose rocker arm. But, most probably it is a cam shaft lobe. My cam shaft lobe was so worn it looked like a journal . Remember the cam shaft is hardened but only the first 0.015". So a nick or over tightening the cam will wear out, quickly.
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Originally Posted by jseremba
Typically this is a cam shift/valve train problem. This happened to me. What you should do is remove the valve covers and then put a socket wrench on the crank shaft bolt, 5/8", and slowly by hand rotate the engine. You will probably see that one of the intake valves is not opening. To determine the cylinder 1. run the car. 2.remove a spark plug wire. if the backfire does not go away replace the wire and remove the next wire. When you get to the cylinder that is backfiring. The backfire will stop. Then remove the valve cover and check. Could be a broken push rod or loose rocker arm. But, most probably it is a cam shaft lobe. My cam shaft lobe was so worn it looked like a journal . Remember the cam shaft is hardened but only the first 0.015". So a nick or over tightening the cam will wear out, quickly.
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thanks for reply.All of my rocker arms lifts up in the same level.Push rods not bend.No valve train noise.The car backfires only on fast acceleration.idle little to high 1000rpm.engine shakes litle.it happens after i cut out cat,blocked egr and removed smog pump.and i installed free flow mufflers.can it be that i installed front injector in to the rear tbi and rear injector in to the front tbi?i did not markt them when i removed, i did't know they are different
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firing order ??
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Old Sep 3, 2018 | 01:21 PM
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firing order is correct that was first thing i did. i ordered ignition timing module,it should come soon. i hope it will solve my problem
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Originally Posted by Donatas
firing order is correct that was first thing i did. i ordered ignition timing module,it should come soon. i hope it will solve my problem
pull spark plug nr 1 and find tds ..... check if the timing mark on the damper is right ...
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Car is fixed and runs perfect now. It was ignition control module faulty
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