D36 2 series or 3 series: how to tell for sure
#1
Le Mans Master
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D36 2 series or 3 series: how to tell for sure
Is there a way to know whether a D36 is a 2 series or 3 series? I'm looking at one for sale locally. It came out of a '92 automatic, but I don't have a way to see the option codes to know whether it came with 2.59 or 3.07. The owner sent me a photo of some casting numbers but I don't see an obvious way to know from these.
thanks!
thanks!
#2
Is there a way to know whether a D36 is a 2 series or 3 series? I'm looking at one for sale locally. It came out of a '92 automatic, but I don't have a way to see the option codes to know whether it came with 2.59 or 3.07. The owner sent me a photo of some casting numbers but I don't see an obvious way to know from these.
thanks!
thanks!
Can the guy provide you with the VIN? If yes take it to a GM dealer parts counter and ask them to confirm the axle ratio RPO for you. That isn't definitive in your case but it's a potential confirmation.
If the housing was etched from the Dana assembly facility it would have three or four lines of code, the ratio, the GM assembly # and the Dana "bill of materials" 605490-4 (2.59), 605490-1 (2.73) or 605490-2 (3.07). If it had a BOM of 605321, 605260 or 605239 it's much older. If it's 605172/605180 you for sure DO NOT want it. That build would indicate '84 and the weakest of all.
Last edited by WVZR-1; 12-30-2016 at 09:05 PM.
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#3
Le Mans Master
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Thanks, the seller did this over the phone before I even got back in touch with me, he told me he kept getting "almost four" turns of the pinion for every one turn of the axle.
I went ahead and picked it up, after confirming that sure enough it looked like this is the ratio. I just checked it on the bench, marked everything with a sharpie, checked it 3 times and and sure enough, I get about 3 and 1/4 turns exactly of the pinion for every one axle turn.
It looks like a 3.73, which obviously never came in a D36 but I know it's available in the aftermarket. The seller said he got this complete assembly thrown in along with a complete '92 automatic Vette he bought.
I went ahead and picked it up, after confirming that sure enough it looked like this is the ratio. I just checked it on the bench, marked everything with a sharpie, checked it 3 times and and sure enough, I get about 3 and 1/4 turns exactly of the pinion for every one axle turn.
It looks like a 3.73, which obviously never came in a D36 but I know it's available in the aftermarket. The seller said he got this complete assembly thrown in along with a complete '92 automatic Vette he bought.
#4
Melting Slicks
Thanks, the seller did this over the phone before I even got back in touch with me, he told me he kept getting "almost four" turns of the pinion for every one turn of the axle.
I went ahead and picked it up, after confirming that sure enough it looked like this is the ratio. I just checked it on the bench, marked everything with a sharpie, checked it 3 times and and sure enough, I get about 3 and 1/4 turns exactly of the pinion for every one axle turn.
It looks like a 3.73, which obviously never came in a D36 but I know it's available in the aftermarket. The seller said he got this complete assembly thrown in along with a complete '92 automatic Vette he bought.
I went ahead and picked it up, after confirming that sure enough it looked like this is the ratio. I just checked it on the bench, marked everything with a sharpie, checked it 3 times and and sure enough, I get about 3 and 1/4 turns exactly of the pinion for every one axle turn.
It looks like a 3.73, which obviously never came in a D36 but I know it's available in the aftermarket. The seller said he got this complete assembly thrown in along with a complete '92 automatic Vette he bought.
#5
LOL - I caught that also but the OP mentioned that "seller" mentioned almost 4 so I so I just smiled and moved on. I'd think the OP needs to maybe pull the cover and "DO THE MATH"!!!
Last edited by WVZR-1; 12-31-2016 at 06:50 PM.
#7
He needs to anyway before installing and confirming the "gear pattern" or having someone who understands check it for him, particularly if it's thought maybe to be an after-market build.
#8
Safety Car
Also while the cover is apart, the thickness of the ring gear can be examined. If it is a "thick" gear, then originally a "2" series, a thin, then was the "3" series.
Yukon gear sells both. A call to them would clarify the dimensions of "thick" -vs- "thin"
https://www.yukongear.com/partslist....26+Pinion+Sets
Divide the nbr of teeth on the ring gear by the nbr of teeth on the pinion will give the ratio.
Yukon gear sells both. A call to them would clarify the dimensions of "thick" -vs- "thin"
https://www.yukongear.com/partslist....26+Pinion+Sets
Divide the nbr of teeth on the ring gear by the nbr of teeth on the pinion will give the ratio.
Last edited by drcook; 12-31-2016 at 07:35 PM.
#11
Le Mans Master
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As an update, I did take the cover off, here's what I found out:
Stamped on the ring gear is USA 012 G 05 878373C 41-11 A .
It looks like this matches the US Gear catalog for a 3.73 ratio for the carrier that came with 3.07. 41 tooth ring 11 tooth pinion. I've never heard of US Gear, only Richmond & Yukon, does anyone have experience with US Gear?
I don't see obvious problems, the fluid inside was dark but I didn't see trash or evidence of damage. I'm thinking of taking it to a local shop that does diffs to see if it's set up right. I'm not really operating at the level necessary to check the gear pattern, backlash, etc.
Also, I have a new FelPro gasket, however it looks like the cover/batwing was put on with only RTV. The gasket was the one AdvanceAuto's system shows will fit, but I haven't taken it out of the box to test it. Should I just seal with a bead of RTV/permatex or whatever? Is one brand/temp range the best to use for this?
Thanks
Stamped on the ring gear is USA 012 G 05 878373C 41-11 A .
It looks like this matches the US Gear catalog for a 3.73 ratio for the carrier that came with 3.07. 41 tooth ring 11 tooth pinion. I've never heard of US Gear, only Richmond & Yukon, does anyone have experience with US Gear?
I don't see obvious problems, the fluid inside was dark but I didn't see trash or evidence of damage. I'm thinking of taking it to a local shop that does diffs to see if it's set up right. I'm not really operating at the level necessary to check the gear pattern, backlash, etc.
Also, I have a new FelPro gasket, however it looks like the cover/batwing was put on with only RTV. The gasket was the one AdvanceAuto's system shows will fit, but I haven't taken it out of the box to test it. Should I just seal with a bead of RTV/permatex or whatever? Is one brand/temp range the best to use for this?
Thanks