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Old Oct 7, 2017 | 11:13 AM
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Hey guys need some input. 1986 convertible w 67k miles. Occasionally the brake light will come on and within a hundred miles or so it will begin pulling slightly to the left. (caliper sticking) Then I start to smell the brakes so I pull over and let it cool. No more pulling to the left. However within a few miles the brake pedal will go to the floor (No pedal at all) after several miles and several attempts at braking the pedal will pop and then be back up and the light goes off. This has happened 4 times in the last 6 months and the LF rotor is blue and warped so I have already ordered new slotted rotors and ceramic pads, but IDK if I need the pressure switch, master cylinder, caliper, rubber line or proportioning valve. Anyone else ever experience this? Thanks

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Old Oct 7, 2017 | 11:53 AM
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I have got to believe the master cylinder has something to do with this. Dan
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Old Oct 7, 2017 | 12:22 PM
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When the brakes get really hot any moisture in the brake fluid will boil. Then you have a gas in the system which just compresses when you push the pedal. When the fluid cools the moisture turns liquid so it works again. After you fix your caliper flush all the old fluid out off the system.
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Old Oct 7, 2017 | 01:52 PM
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When the brakes get really hot any moisture in the brake fluid will boil. Then you have a gas in the system which just compresses when you push the pedal. When the fluid cools the moisture turns liquid so it works again. After you fix your caliper flush all the old fluid out off the system.
I just received a caliper rebuild kit in the mail today was going to try that first. Not sure if a kit will even help. Not much to it just some o-rings. Can and or should I vat the caliper in chemdip? Thanks
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Old Oct 7, 2017 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RWDsmoke
When the brakes get really hot any moisture in the brake fluid will boil. Then you have a gas in the system which just compresses when you push the pedal. When the fluid cools the moisture turns liquid so it works again. After you fix your caliper flush all the old fluid out off the system.
Very intelligent reply. I did consider this actually but did not consider that just one caliper sticking could cause enough gas to make the pedal go to the floor. Must be a lot of moisture in the system. Dan
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Old Oct 7, 2017 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Whaleman
Very intelligent reply. I did consider this actually but did not consider that just one caliper sticking could cause enough gas to make the pedal go to the floor. Must be a lot of moisture in the system. Dan
I wouldn't doubt there is a lot of moisture in it. I've only owned the car about 9 months. The previous owner only drove it a few miles a year and only short trips. And apparently rarely if ever serviced anything.
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Old Oct 7, 2017 | 08:51 PM
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Check for collapsed rubber brake hose at caliper.
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Old Oct 7, 2017 | 09:15 PM
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If I were you, and I was in your position only a few months back.... I would only want to do the job once. SO.... Replace the master cylinder, all 4 brake hoses, rebuild all 4 calipers and flush 2 to 3 pints of DOT 3 through the system. Be sure to thoroughly clean the caliper slide bolts and re-lube them lightly with caliper grease. These things done with the new pads and rotors, and you will be in good shape for a long time.
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u can buy caliper rebuild kits cheap. thats what i did on my 86.
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Originally Posted by Whaleman
Very intelligent reply. I did consider this actually but did not consider that just one caliper sticking could cause enough gas to make the pedal go to the floor. Must be a lot of moisture in the system. Dan

Water expands approximately 1800 times when it turns to steam so it doesn't take all that much.
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