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Old 11-16-2017, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 64Scout

It should show 12s anyway whether there are other codes or not. 12 just means the engine isn't running.
To clarify ... the 12 codes are basically parentheses to the real error code. If you do not see the 6 12's then the ECM has issues.

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Just wanted to see for sure. You get power at the fuse level but the car won't stop without ether and when you are cranking you get no flashing lights on the injector noid lights?
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alright guys here what i did today,
I tested the injector plugs for power. none at all. i get power to the fuses for the injectors. i took off my new distributor module and took it to oriellys to have it tested, i also had the old one tested. turns out the new module i bought was fried and the old one works great. so i took it home put it all back together and still, no fix. i also decided to change the coil out with another new one i had laying around. never used. and still no fix. after all this i tryied to clear the codes again and still nothing. i think my next step is to fork up the money for an obd 1 scanner because i dont think the pin trick is doing me any good. i do hear the fuel pump prime, and my fuel presure is good. im just not getting power to the injectors and i dont have the tool to check for volts at the tps.
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Originally Posted by aklim
Just wanted to see for sure. You get power at the fuse level but the car won't stop without ether and when you are cranking you get no flashing lights on the injector noid lights?
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Originally Posted by nmay
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So what we are saying is it won't start at all but will crank. However once started with starting fluid it will run?
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Originally Posted by nmay
... after all this i tryied to clear the codes again and still nothing. i think my next step is to fork up the money for an obd 1 scanner because i dont think the pin trick is doing me any good....
So you had some codes? And?
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So what we are saying is it won't start at all but will crank. However once started with starting fluid it will run?
yes. it will not start. it will crank like its so close, but will not start without starter fluid. it is a fact that i have no power to the injector harnesses so my injectors dont even get a chance to work
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So you had some codes? And?
no, no codes. as far as i understand. the only way to know is with a scanner
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Originally Posted by nmay
yes. it will not start. it will crank like its so close, but will not start without starter fluid. it is a fact that i have no power to the injector harnesses so my injectors dont even get a chance to work
From what you are saying, the injectors only pulse AFTER it gets running? After all, the ether starts it and the engine is able to continue running after that.
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Originally Posted by aklim
IIRC, the TPS is adjustable. http://www.enduringautomotive.com/tps/

IDK. I'd use my scanner but you can try unplugging the battery or going to Autozone. Supposedly they tell you to unplug the battery and turn on the light or wait for 20 mins. Never verified that personally so IDK.
i just back probed my tps. its set and working correctly according to my ohm meter
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Originally Posted by aklim
From what you are saying, the injectors only pulse AFTER it gets running? After all, the ether starts it and the engine is able to continue running after that.
no, my injector harnesses are not working at all. when i start the car with starter fluid, it will run for a few seconds till the starter fluid is gone then it stalls. injectors never come on. only the cold start injector has power. the other 8 have nothing
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Originally Posted by desertmike1
Here is the Code interrogation instruction;

http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm

To Clear the codes on an 87 you can simply remove the Battery negative cable for a few seconds, and reattach.
Alright, i did the code test like you instructed, after the third 12, the anti lock light came on, then blinked three more 12s. now my car wont even crank. answers please?? this car is gonna make a grown man cry
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Originally Posted by nmay
iv got everything working all the way up to the injectors.
Did you ohm ALL of the 8 fuel injectors ?

Sound like a shorted out Injector to me.

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Originally Posted by nmay
i just back probed my tps. its set and working correctly according to my ohm meter
I suppose that is one way of doing it since it is a rheostat. Not sure what values to tell you to get. 1 is 5V, the other is ground and the other one should be about 0.54V. Not sure how to set it by resistance.
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Originally Posted by nmay
no, my injector harnesses are not working at all. when i start the car with starter fluid, it will run for a few seconds till the starter fluid is gone then it stalls. injectors never come on. only the cold start injector has power. the other 8 have nothing
OK. So now what we have is the car works except it doesn't get injector pulse either when it is cranking or running. It is the starter fluid that sustains it and when it is gone, no fuel.
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Originally Posted by nmay
Alright, i did the code test like you instructed, after the third 12, the anti lock light came on, then blinked three more 12s. now my car wont even crank. answers please?? this car is gonna make a grown man cry
Is the security light on? Is the gear in correct position? If the gearshift is out the system will not allow you to start. I would think that there would be a code if VATS disabled the car. Try cranking again in 15 minutes and see that the shifter is in neutral or park
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Originally Posted by Vic'89
Did you ohm ALL of the 8 fuel injectors ?

Sound like a shorted out Injector to me.

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I suppose one injector could short out a bank but both banks? It should run like crap with one bank, shouldn't it? Ask me how I know.

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Originally Posted by aklim
OK. So now what we have is the car works except it doesn't get injector pulse either when it is cranking or running. It is the starter fluid that sustains it and when it is gone, no fuel.
yes now we are on the same page. but now it wont crank at all after checking it for codes this afternoon. when i checked for codes, the service engine light blinked 12s three times then the anti lock light came on, then the service light blinked 3 more 12s and now the car wont even crank. i tried to clear the code and the car still wont crank and the anti lock light is still on
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Originally Posted by rharker
So you had some codes? And?
i tested it for codes. i Got three 12s then the anti lock light came on and then got another three 12s. and now my car wont turn over at all. what did i do? i also tried clearing the codes after this and the anti lock light still comes on and the car doesnt turn over still.
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Originally Posted by Vic'89
Did you ohm ALL of the 8 fuel injectors ?

Sound like a shorted out Injector to me.

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so your saying if one of the injectors shorts out, it will kill power to all 8?


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