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My Apologies to all - I was WRONG ! Written FSM says relay will remain energized as long as ECM receiving reference pulses ! I am really sorry ! So much for my experience !!! greg
The weatherman is more wrong than you and he still has a job. Nobody bats 100% success
My Apologies to all - I was WRONG ! Written FSM says relay will remain energized as long as ECM receiving reference pulses ! I am really sorry ! So much for my experience !!! greg
No one can know everything. Thankfully no one is required to know everything.
Do you know what they call a man who has made every mistake possible in his field of study ??
Thanks to you all ! You all too kind to this egg faced idiot ! I truly am so sorry !!!
In my defense I was looking at the attached schematic where it says - "crank only " !!!
Thanks to you all ! You all too kind to this egg faced idiot ! I truly am so sorry !!!
In my defense I was looking at the attached schematic where it says - "crank only " !!!
Where did you get that? My book is black and white only.
In my 1992 FSM it says fuel pump control (during start only) from pin 7 of the ECM Page 8A-21-7. I have never tested this, is the FSM wrong in this regard?
In my 1992 FSM it says fuel pump control (during start only) from pin 7 of the ECM Page 8A-21-7. I have never tested this, is the FSM wrong in this regard?
I would have to see the schematic. I can tell you that service manual updates come around almost as often as service bulletins. What is more likely is the schematic you are looking at it providing an incomplete picture of the circuit. Done so for simplicity.
I would have to see the schematic. I can tell you that service manual updates come around almost as often as service bulletins. What is more likely is the schematic you are looking at it providing an incomplete picture of the circuit. Done so for simplicity.
Schematic is correct - no problem there. FP relay is in parallel with PCM and engine oil pressure switch. That's what the FSM manual shows. I have the original manuals which is why mine are also in color.
If you look at schematic I attached it clearly states "crank only". Then I read the written word which says ...... ignition pulses - bla-bla -bla .......
So the written word diverges from the schematic - I was going by the schematic only - so much for that !!!! Sorry !
Schematic is correct - no problem there. FP relay is in parallel with PCM and engine oil pressure switch. That's what the FSM manual shows. I have the original manuals which is why mine are also in color.
If you look at schematic I attached it clearly states "crank only". Then I read the written word which says ...... ignition pulses - bla-bla -bla .......
So the written word diverges from the schematic - I was going by the schematic only - so much for that !!!! Sorry !
My schematic is the same as far as the FP relay and oil pressure switch being in parallel. I do not have the same text as you found, or at least nowhere near the schematic.
I would have to see the schematic. I can tell you that service manual updates come around almost as often as service bulletins. What is more likely is the schematic you are looking at it providing an incomplete picture of the circuit. Done so for simplicity.
Looks pretty straight forward and I was a electronic bench technician for 10 years and did a little circuit design on a T1 multiplexer as well.
My schematic is the same as far as the FP relay and oil pressure switch being in parallel. I do not have the same text as you found, or at least nowhere near the schematic.
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VIN 8 Driveability & Emissions
I may scan later but a PIA for me as I must switch to XP - Old Canon scanner won't work on '7' ! lol
Actually it'd make more sense to me if the PCM only supplied the 2 second pulse and then the oil pressure switch took over ! That's what the schematic implies. So if the PCM does see ignition pulses and runs the relay then why the oil pressure switch ? Back-up - why - if the PCM dies where you going ?
Actually it'd make more sense to me if the PCM only supplied the 2 second pulse and then the oil pressure switch took over ! That's what the schematic implies. So if the PCM does see ignition pulses and runs the relay then why the oil pressure switch ? Back-up - why - if the PCM dies where you going ?
It is my understanding the oil switch is a back up for the relay. If the relay fails, you will get a “long crank” symptom, but not be stranded on the side if the road.