...not a worry on my end
Getting some fresh, unexpected money...
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 788
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From: Rio Rico, AZ
Getting some fresh, unexpected money...
Hi all. I am going to end up with some unexpected money. I had a work injury that resulted in surgery. Thought the case was closed till I received a phone call from the insurer yesterday. A pain and suffering kind of thing. So my wife(she gives good advice...) says I should rebuild or replace the bottom end and make the whole motor fresh. So I'm thinking a 383 short block assembly. I've got:
Lingenfelter 74211 cam
roller lifters
Scorpion 1.6 roller rockers
Melrose header system
Edelbrock manifold 3860 intake
ASM runners
Pulling the trigger on AFR 195 heads (very soon)
700R4 transmission
3.07 rear end
Are there brands or manufactures to stay away from when buying a short block assembly? I'm not going to the track (well no plans...), just a street car. But the low mid range power/torque I read about sounds nice. I'm concerned with what to stay away from if ordering a assembled block.
Thanks guys once again, Went
Lingenfelter 74211 cam
roller lifters
Scorpion 1.6 roller rockers
Melrose header system
Edelbrock manifold 3860 intake
ASM runners
Pulling the trigger on AFR 195 heads (very soon)
700R4 transmission
3.07 rear end
Are there brands or manufactures to stay away from when buying a short block assembly? I'm not going to the track (well no plans...), just a street car. But the low mid range power/torque I read about sounds nice. I'm concerned with what to stay away from if ordering a assembled block.
Thanks guys once again, Went
Team Owner
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 28,475
Likes: 3,291
From: Hartford WI
Hi all. I am going to end up with some unexpected money. I had a work injury that resulted in surgery. Thought the case was closed till I received a phone call from the insurer yesterday. A pain and suffering kind of thing. So my wife(she gives good advice...) says I should rebuild or replace the bottom end and make the whole motor fresh. So I'm thinking a 383 short block assembly. I've got:
Lingenfelter 74211 cam
roller lifters
Scorpion 1.6 roller rockers
Melrose header system
Edelbrock manifold 3860 intake
ASM runners
Pulling the trigger on AFR 195 heads (very soon)
700R4 transmission
3.07 rear end
Are there brands or manufactures to stay away from when buying a short block assembly? I'm not going to the track (well no plans...), just a street car. But the low mid range power/torque I read about sounds nice. I'm concerned with what to stay away from if ordering a assembled block.
Thanks guys once again, Went
Lingenfelter 74211 cam
roller lifters
Scorpion 1.6 roller rockers
Melrose header system
Edelbrock manifold 3860 intake
ASM runners
Pulling the trigger on AFR 195 heads (very soon)
700R4 transmission
3.07 rear end
Are there brands or manufactures to stay away from when buying a short block assembly? I'm not going to the track (well no plans...), just a street car. But the low mid range power/torque I read about sounds nice. I'm concerned with what to stay away from if ordering a assembled block.
Thanks guys once again, Went
Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 262
From: Park Ridge New Jersey
I'm doing a very similar set up that all started when I blew the #7 head gasket (damn 
).....
I went with Lloyd Elliot LE2 package and the additional parts he recommended.
We pulled the oil pan last night to check out the lower end (see picture), don't want to go through all of this to have a problem with the lower end 5K miles down the road. No 383, just a refresh, new bearing/seals and have it tanked(?). The look of that mustard coolant and oil mixture and cleaning it as well as the exterior block is not something I'm looking forward to, so out to a professional.
).....I went with Lloyd Elliot LE2 package and the additional parts he recommended.
We pulled the oil pan last night to check out the lower end (see picture), don't want to go through all of this to have a problem with the lower end 5K miles down the road. No 383, just a refresh, new bearing/seals and have it tanked(?). The look of that mustard coolant and oil mixture and cleaning it as well as the exterior block is not something I'm looking forward to, so out to a professional.
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Joined: Dec 2012
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From: Rio Rico, AZ
Went
Last edited by Went; Mar 16, 2018 at 03:10 PM.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2015
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From: Park Ridge New Jersey
Team Owner
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 28,475
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From: Hartford WI
That sucks. Just a thought, ask Wong if he can make different tunes. Craig Moates designed the chip for DP-Tuner in the Powerstroke world and might have something that works so you can either have 2 chips or a switchable chip. So I have a high idle, stock tune, Tow tune and a smoke tune or economy. Maybe you can have 2 tunes? One to pass emissions and one to play? Check with Moates and see.
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 788
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From: Rio Rico, AZ
Just talked with Jim Barch tonight. I'm going to have a 383 built. I gave him the go ahead to look for a block for the build. Jim thinks I'll do fine with the Lingenfelter 74219 cam or similar cam when it comes time to DEQ the car. I also pulled the trigger on a used Superram intake. I'll be selling some of the new parts I had bought now that I've changed directions. Feels good to get started on the engine.
Went
Hey everyone, I made a mistake...Jim's name is Jim Barth! I'd like to blame my phone but the mistake is on me.
Went
Went
Hey everyone, I made a mistake...Jim's name is Jim Barth! I'd like to blame my phone but the mistake is on me.
Went
Last edited by Went; Mar 30, 2018 at 11:59 AM.
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Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2002
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From: S.L.C. UT
I'm still looking for a block for you. I think you will like a 383 super ram engine. Torque everywhere, a great street car engine. And you don't have to use alot of cam in them, so they are still pretty fuel efficient, very responsive and have great street manners.
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Racer
Joined: May 2013
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From: Long Valley NJ
I'm still looking for a block for you. I think you will like a 383 super ram engine. Torque everywhere, a great street car engine. And you don't have to use alot of cam in them, so they are still pretty fuel efficient, very responsive and have great street manners.
Had I known it was going to be this expensive and long a process, I'd have never done it. Original motor (built wrong), had to do over again at builder shop including 5 new pistons, rings, honed, dipped, all of it.
I could have bought C6.
A nice 383 for a c4 is perfect.
My dyno came out like this, running 4.10s with a ZF6:
That's about as good as it gets. I have AFR 225 heads, a Lloyd Elliot custom grind Lunati...ported/polished heads matched to intake....
400HP at wheels. That's it.
Fantastic torque line (flat and steady) but so is an LS and for a lot less than I spent.
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 788
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From: Rio Rico, AZ
So Jim Barth has ordered a bunch of components for my 383 build. He found a very nice 4-bolt main block for me.
Engine parts Jim has ordered:
Scat series 9000 stroker crank
Scat Pro Stock 6" I-Beam Connecting Rods, forged 4340 steel
Bearing, main & rods
Keith Black pistons
Rings
Flex plate
Jim's ordering more parts after our discussion today, cam and crank balancer. Next, soon as I get more money together the engine will go to the machine shop.
Can't wait...Went
Engine parts Jim has ordered:
Scat series 9000 stroker crank
Scat Pro Stock 6" I-Beam Connecting Rods, forged 4340 steel
Bearing, main & rods
Keith Black pistons
Rings
Flex plate
Jim's ordering more parts after our discussion today, cam and crank balancer. Next, soon as I get more money together the engine will go to the machine shop.
Can't wait...Went
Last edited by Went; Apr 21, 2018 at 08:57 PM.
Race Director
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From: moraga ca
You won’t go wrong with a Jim Barth motor. Jim just built a stroker for a friend of mine. And he is in cloud nine. I had ab383 with a Superram and it was a great combination. Low 11’s in the quarter.