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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 10:22 PM
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I having the hardest time decideing what type of suspension i should go with as a winter project... i need new shocks for sure. Mine have definately kicked the bucket... I was going to just go with Qa1 12 pt adjustable shocks but then i wanted to be able to adjust ride height...So i thought Coilovers... I have the lowering kit but the front sits higher than the rear by about a half inch... SOOO then i hear about this adjustable leaf spring VB&P offer... Basically i can get 4 QA1 12pt ajustable shocks and this VB&P adjustable front spring for around $1135.00... Now i can also get a whole coilover setup for around $1500.00...What setup would give me a better ride quality... Im sick of the rough and unstable feeling u get when u hit bumps and since my shocks are dead every bump i hit i feal... So what should i do...
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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Default Re: VB&P adjustable front spring?? What's your thoughts... (Izover4u)

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=413953

They were right when they said that the shock towers weren't designed to hold the weight of the car. The price of the coil-overs doesn't include fabrication to the shock mounts. In my opinion it's easier to upgrade the suspension with the stock configuration. We can make a spring at any rate you want, in other words if you don't like the ride we can exchange the spring for a better ride. You might want to check the condition of the rubber bushings or change-over to poly which will stabilize the car even with stock springs.
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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You might want to check the condition of the rubber bushings or change-over to poly which will stabilize the car even with stock springs.


Changing out the rubber bushings to poly made mine run like a new car. No more "which way did I go" on rough corners.
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 08:51 PM
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So your saying if i order that front adjustable spring.. and i dont like the way the car rides your guys will exchange it for a different spring rate? no charge? Also how low does the front adjustable spring actually let me lower my car? :confused: :D
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 04:52 PM
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I having the hardest time decideing what type of suspension i should go with as a winter project... i need new shocks for sure. Mine have definately kicked the bucket... I was going to just go with Qa1 12 pt adjustable shocks but then i wanted to be able to adjust ride height...So i thought Coilovers... I have the lowering kit but the front sits higher than the rear by about a half inch... SOOO then i hear about this adjustable leaf spring VB&P offer... Basically i can get 4 QA1 12pt ajustable shocks and this VB&P adjustable front spring for around $1135.00... Now i can also get a whole coilover setup for around $1500.00...What setup would give me a better ride quality... Im sick of the rough and unstable feeling u get when u hit bumps and since my shocks are dead every bump i hit i feal... So what should i do... Thanks guys :cheers:
Wow, I'm in the exact same boat as you. I'm going to do my suspension over the winter and I have decided on the QA1 adjustables as well but I'm still not sure about the springs. I would love to go to a coil over but I have my doubts as well.

If I could exchange the VB&P springs for no charge in case I didn't like the spring rates then I must admit that is very appealing.

I'd like to know as well if that exchange policy exisits.

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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 10:18 PM
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=413953

They were right when they said that the shock towers weren't designed to hold the weight of the car. The price of the coil-overs doesn't include fabrication to the shock mounts.
Why do you say this? Seriously, I'd like to see some actual data, pictures, anything....proving this point. If you have provided this information in a past post, could you point me to it? A lot of people like to bash the coil over setup, but I have never heard of any problem due to supposed weakness of the shock towers. If the towers can stand the forces created by the high shock damping needed to go with the high spring rates of some of your packages, then they can withstand the force applied by supporting the weight of the vehicle with coil springs.
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 06:56 PM
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Why do you say this? Seriously, I'd like to see some actual data, pictures, anything....proving this point. If you have provided this information in a past post, could you point me to it? A lot of people like to bash the coil over setup, but I have never heard of any problem due to supposed weakness of the shock towers. If the towers can stand the forces created by the high shock damping needed to go with the high spring rates of some of your packages, then they can withstand the force applied by supporting the weight of the vehicle with coil springs.
I agree with Gary. Since Vette Brakes and Products does not sell coilovers,I wouldn't really expect them to be unbiased about them.
I've never heard of a structural failure on a C4 running coilovers.
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We are constantly conversing with racers and tuners who are using a wide range of different set-ups. I haven't seen pictures but I've heard that with coil-overs the front a-arm bracket and shock tower will collapse/bend toward the engine. Also the lower a-arms over time will bow out (spread) because the arms are designed to support the weight where the lower mono-spring slides in, especially under hard driving conditions. I've also heard that Lingenfelter installs front engine plates and bigger shock-mount brackets to stop the bending of the upper frame. You could probably use a camber brace (spreader-bar) and a couple of gussets welded to the shock-mount and be OK. :smash:
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Default Re: VB&P adjustable front spring?? What's your thoughts... (VBP)

We are constantly conversing with racers and tuners who are using a wide range of different set-ups. I haven't seen pictures but I've heard that with coil-overs the front a-arm bracket and shock tower will collapse/bend toward the engine. Also the lower a-arms over time will bow out (spread) because the arms are designed to support the weight where the lower mono-spring slides in, especially under hard driving conditions. I've also heard that Lingenfelter installs front engine plates and bigger shock-mount brackets to stop the bending of the upper frame. You could probably use a camber brace (spreader-bar) and a couple of gussets welded to the shock-mount and be OK. :smash:
So you heard that coilovers might cause damage to the shock towers. Well, I guess that settles it then :rolleyes:
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