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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 12:06 PM
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So I had my car in for service as it overheated on my way home. Coolant rez was actually boiling over. Towed it to a GM dealer. Needed a new thermostat and said they needed to remove intake to re&re. I have no time or place to do the work so said do the job.
Now it's not overheating anymore but after just 10 sec of running from cold start smoke is coming from the engine. So much were it looks like my engine bay is on fire. Burning oil off manifolds. Noticed injectors have oil all around them them too. I had valve covers re&re'd about 1000km before this thermostat service. So new gasket were done at that time and all oil was burnt off during those 1000km.
I noticed my thermostat is now leaking so bringing it back to them. Since the smoke started after there service was done Im looking for opinions on what could make this happen from a thermostat re and re. Taking into consideration they said they removed intake to allow access to thermostat
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pavich91
So I had my car in for service as it overheated on my way home. Coolant rez was actually boiling over. Towed it to a GM dealer. Needed a new thermostat and said they needed to remove intake to re&re. I have no time or place to do the work so said do the job.
Now it's not overheating anymore but after just 10 sec of running from cold start smoke is coming from the engine. So much were it looks like my engine bay is on fire. Burning oil off manifolds. Noticed injectors have oil all around them them too. I had valve covers re&re'd about 1000km before this thermostat service. So new gasket were done at that time and all oil was burnt off during those 1000km.
I noticed my thermostat is now leaking so bringing it back to them. Since the smoke started after there service was done Im looking for opinions on what could make this happen from a thermostat re and re. Taking into consideration they said they removed intake to allow access to thermostat
Thanks!
If they pulled the intake, then I'd bet on the intake being a source of leakage. The t-stat is leaking after they replaced it? Did they not think to check it for leaks?
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 12:38 PM
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If they pulled the intake, then I'd bet on the intake being a source of leakage. The t-stat is leaking after they replaced it? Did they not think to check it for leaks?
You woulda thought. Looks like it may be leaking threw one of the bolts. Either that or a hairline crack in the neck.
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 12:44 PM
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You woulda thought. Looks like it may be leaking threw one of the bolts. Either that or a hairline crack in the neck.
My 85 does slowly rid itself of oil, and I suspect it is the intake leaking. I also get some water/oil that pools up there next to the t-stat.
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 07:39 PM
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Yea mjne was leaking from valve covers before, got it fixed up and no more leak/smoke. Now since ive had my thermostat done its leaking oil and smoking more then its ever have. So im just trying to find out if this is because of there re&re work.
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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 08:04 PM
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Yea mjne was leaking from valve covers before, got it fixed up and no more leak/smoke. Now since ive had my thermostat done its leaking oil and smoking more then its ever have. So im just trying to find out if this is because of there re&re work.
I would assume so. I hear the intake is hard to get sealed properly, they may have goobered that up. Plus, if they pulled valve covers for a little more room when doing the intake, they could have not reinatalled them right. I don't think I'll ever let someone touch my car unless I'm watching because of situations like yours.
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Originally Posted by pavich91

So I had my car in for service as it overheated on my way home. Coolant rez was actually boiling over. Towed it to a GM dealer. Needed a new thermostat and said they needed to remove intake to re&re. I have no time or place to do the work so said do the job.
Now it's not overheating anymore but after just 10 sec of running from cold start smoke is coming from the engine. So much were it looks like my engine bay is on fire. Burning oil off manifolds. Noticed injectors have oil all around them them too. I had valve covers re&re'd about 1000km before this thermostat service. So new gasket were done at that time and all oil was burnt off during those 1000km.
I noticed my thermostat is now leaking so bringing it back to them. Since the smoke started after there service was done Im looking for opinions on what could make this happen from a thermostat re and re. Taking into consideration they said they removed intake to allow access to thermostat
Thanks!
….. I thought it was common knowledge that unless your car is under warranty , the LAST place to take it is to a dealer … Why ? because their labor rates are astronomical and ditto for parts … plus they haven't seen a C4 since THEY went out of warranty … Soooo … how much did it cost you to have the $10 thermostat replaced ??? … If that picture is after the dealer worked on it , there's no way they took the intake manifold off . The oil on the injectors is about 15 years old … same for the dust/dirt on everything else in that picture … Go ahead … take it back to them and hand over the gold card and they'll be happy to fix it for you ! …..
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….. For what its worth … I pulled a stuck thermostat out of my vette on the side of the road once using a rusty 9/16ths wrench , a dime , a pair of needle nosed pliers , and a 7-11 coffee cup … you don't need to remove anything but maybe the intake hose off the throttle body …..
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….. I thought it was common knowledge that unless your car is under warranty , the LAST place to take it is to a dealer … Why ? because their labor rates are astronomical and ditto for parts … plus they haven't seen a C4 since THEY went out of warranty … Soooo … how much did it cost you to have the $10 thermostat replaced ??? … If that picture is after the dealer worked on it , there's no way they took the intake manifold off . The oil on the injectors is about 15 years old … same for the dust/dirt on everything else in that picture … Go ahead … take it back to them and hand over the gold card and they'll be happy to fix it for you ! …..
Yea I usually think like you do. Unfortunately I broke down and my other mechanic was unavailable. Needed to tow it somewhere for a diagnosis. Not like I knew it was a thermostat right away. I used to work for this dealer so I get a discount on parts and labour. Which in the end is still more then your average mechanic. But again. I had to tow it somewhere and figure out why it was over heating.
​​​​​​The gold card is not needed on this return trip considering its leaking coolant from there re&re. So at this point of course I'll bring it back to get them to fix there job. And future work will go to my regular mechanic when he has time.
Thanks for your helpful response
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….. I thought it was common knowledge that unless your car is under warranty , the LAST place to take it is to a dealer … Why ? because their labor rates are astronomical and ditto for parts … plus they haven't seen a C4 since THEY went out of warranty … Soooo … how much did it cost you to have the $10 thermostat replaced ??? … If that picture is after the dealer worked on it , there's no way they took the intake manifold off . The oil on the injectors is about 15 years old … same for the dust/dirt on everything else in that picture … Go ahead … take it back to them and hand over the gold card and they'll be happy to fix it for you ! …..
Thats quite true about dealership service but many service shops will use a flat rate book for work that has the same rates as what the dealers use. Stay way clear of the "franchise" type repair shops. Best shops for skill, service and rates are the Mom and Pop owned businesses. Franchise shops are the worst for those. Seems my local Chevy dealer likes to repair/replace just one item at a time when the car needs return visits to get the complete repair. Or maybe they are breaking adjacent parts when replacing original broken part, IDK but I can say I've had that experience on a warranty car on some non-warranty items.
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 03:17 PM
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There is no way you need to remove the intake to change a thermostat. GM has made there messes from time to time but not that one. I would pay the money for a one day pass to Mitchell's online and get the time and steps involved to change a thermostat of see if someone here can scan the page out of the FSM. If it was a 91 I would do it for you and doubt if it is any different for any L98. From there it s make it right and money back for extra work done or claimed done. That is what a license to repair cars is all about and in this case DMV is your friend.
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what temp thermoat Do you have?

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