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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 11:28 AM
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I got a ball joint kit from Mamotorworks and took the control arms to my machine shop. When they took the lowers apart the new lower joints were larger than the original. I called mamotorworks and they said that is how the new ones are made. Has anybody had the same issue? I'm worried that they will crack the arm if they try and press them in.
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 11:49 AM
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How much larger? Every one I've ever done takes a decent size press to get them in (It's an interference fit). The hardest part is making sure everything is perpendicular during the install.
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 12:13 PM
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The machine shop says it's about .014 larger
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Growth 3
The machine shop says it's about .014 larger
That's about what my new one was. I was scratching my head going back and forth between the old and new ball joint with dial calipers, wondering how the new joint was meant to fit. I eventually got some light sandpaper, took the lip of the bottom of the control arm, and polished the inside of the hole. Next, I got some anti-seize, and put that on the new joint. Next, I got a torch, and heated the control arm for ~15 minutes. It was cooking grease off of the inside of the control arm when I stopped heating it, so it was darn hot. Finally, I put the new joint in the ball joint clamp, and it went it. I used a conventional press, shaped like a clamp, that I had to use a breaker bar to tighten. IOW, I did the ball joint with the control arm on the car. It took a lot of effort to get the joint to go, but it went in 1 or 2 degrees off of straight in, and it came flush/fully seated after I finished. It did cut a small sliver of aluminum out of the top lip of the hole since it was slightly crooked, but it went it, and it has been fine for 10k miles now.

So long story short, heat helps, and you should try freezing the ball joint before you drive it in. If this shop has a press, and the arm off the car, it should be a breeze. If I had to do it again, I would drop the arm and use a shop press.
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 03:02 PM
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I replaced my front lowers on my84 with AC Delco professional line and they went in just fine. I have heard of some brands not a proper fit, mostly on the larger side.
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Originally Posted by Growth 3
The machine shop says it's about .014 larger
.014 is too much. I'd have sent them back.
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They’re an interference fit. I cleaned the inside bore of the control arms till they shined. Used a hydraulic press and made damn sure they were going in straight. No problems. If they don’t go in straight and you continue to press I can see that cracking the aluminum.
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