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Old 08-16-2018, 09:20 PM
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In June my wife and I went for a ride in my '95. I've owned the car 4+ years and I drive it only in the summer and it's rare that it goes over the speed limit. I take care of it. We were pulling out of a town, going up to 50 mph and I noticed it was revving high. I stopped and re-started. It would shift 1-2 but not 2-3. I ended up having it towed home. I had other pressing matters so it didn't get to a garage until a couple weeks ago. Through googling I was convinced it was the 2-3 solenoid. I had my mechanic (or more likely his idiot assistant) replace both solenoids and (of course) do a fluid/filter change. Now it won't even shift out of first. I do not have a code reader and any code reader anyone hooks to it will not read anything. I crossed pins 4 and 12 and got the following codes: C12, H67, H74, H81, H82, H83, H84, H90. I am at a loss as far as interpreting these codes, I just wanted to report them here. Because I question the solenoid replacement job, I've decided to do it myself. I ordered 2 new solenoids. I am wondering many things... were the new solenoids damaged when installed? Did they break a wire in the harness? Are the solenoids plugged in properly? I did call the local Chevrolet dealer and their response was that they would likely just replace the transmission at a cost of $4000. Some sites state that my symptoms indicate that I blew the clutches for 3rd gear. How can I do that driving like a grandmother? There are no transmission shop in the area. I am in northern Maine. I am at the mercy of hack mechanics or the dealer. Some have suggested checking the fuse. I wasn't aware that the transmission had a fuse and I sure can't find it in my diagram. I would welcome any help.
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It would shift 1-2 but not 2-3.
Is it a flare? Because, if it is, that is a common 4L60 failure.

And yes, it sounds like they made the problem worse rather than better.

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How can I do that driving like a grandmother?
Makes no difference.. The second you lose pressure anywhere in the 4L60/E, it burns the 3-4 clutch, and it happens very fast.

I doubt the solenoids will fix it.

If you are missing shifts entirely? Perhaps.. But if you have a flare, it is doubtful.

Some have suggested checking the fuse.
No trans power causes third gear start.

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When it attempted the 2-3 shift, it was just like I kicked it into neutral.
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When it attempted the 2-3 shift, it was just like I kicked it into neutral.
Is it like this?

You roll out, it's perfect. Shift's 1-2, perfect.. No slip no nothing.. It goes to third and you just hear the engine rev?

If you get it fast enough to jump third? Same condition..

Sound right?
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"You roll out, it's perfect. Shift's 1-2, perfect.. No slip no nothing.. It goes to third and you just hear the engine rev?"

That's it exactly. Never been able to jump third. I didn't even know it was possible.
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You have most of the solenoid codes. I would check connector where harness plugs in transmission. Do you have FSM or 4l60e service guide? I would try to diagnose at least one of the codes. If one solenoid failed replacing the others could be PM. You want to review replacement procedure a head of time. Once you drop pan you kinda stuck. The valve body will need to be removed to replace soleniods.
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This whole thing is pretty catastrophic but not the end of the world I guess. I'll put it away and set aside money for a rebuilt. There's always next year.
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It is possible depending on vehicle speed, but it won't help.

This is a classic symptom of the 4L60E. If you lose pressure, anywhere, the first thing that happens is you burn the 3-4 clutch.

It needs rebuilt or replaced.

Seen it a million times. I run a transmission shop down here near Cincy.

Sorry to be the arbiter of bad news bro, but you are wasting money on solenoids.

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I do have the 2 volume service manual. I've heard mixed messages about dropping the valve body. Some say it's necessary, others say it's not.
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I don't know if I should mention a retailer here and will delete if not, but someone suggested getting a rebuilt from a company called monster transmissions? It's like $1200 or so, and I assume shipping will add a couple hundred. I don't exactly have that kind of money falling out of my hip pocket but I could do it over time. If I have to back it into it's garage and forget about it until next spring, so be it. (Yes, it has it's own garage lol).
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unfamiliar with them..
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I imagine there are a bunch of them out there. There is a junkyard about 175 miles from here with a 4L60E from a '95 for $850 but I'm sure that's a pig in a poke.
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I just put it out there you could check with local GM dealer about a SRTA it would have 36 mo.50k p&l warranty and you could try a few different dealers because pricing can vary
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Originally Posted by ksdaddy
I imagine there are a bunch of them out there. There is a junkyard about 175 miles from here with a 4L60E from a '95 for $850 but I'm sure that's a pig in a poke.
This is a problem because corvette transmissions are unique. (So it has to be a corvette) The output shaft is shorter and anything you are buying is still decades old.

850 is high for this area anyway.. But, local markets vary.

There is a definite gambling aspect to any used trans purchase and you are compounding it by the age of the vehicle.

If 850 is the price? I'd do a rebuild first.. At least it has a warranty and it isn't two decades old.

You CAN fix this yourself, but it will take an expert level mechanical ability..
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Originally Posted by Kevova
I just put it out there you could check with local GM dealer about a SRTA it would have 36 mo.50k p&l warranty and you could try a few different dealers because pricing can vary
Good point. I'm sure I'd spend more but I'd at least have some coverage.
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Originally Posted by confab
You CAN fix this yourself, but it will take an expert level mechanical ability..
Yeah, the last one I rebuilt was a Powerglide in 1980 lol.

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Originally Posted by ksdaddy
Yeah, the last one I rebuilt was a Powerglide in 1980 lol.
Did it work? You're about 90% ahead of everyone else..

You can do this..
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Fuzzy memory but the only problem I remember was pulling the pump. Seems like I used a slide hammer or something?
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If you want to try it.. I'll do my best to help.


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