26 or 30 lb injectors
#1
Safety Car
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26 or 30 lb injectors
As the ones of you that subscribe to FIC's emails, they are running a sale right now. So the ones of you more knowledgeable than I in this area, 26 or 30 lb Bosch III's ?
To recap where I am going:
96 LT1 will have the following (which I have on hand, or will)
LT4 Hot Cam
1.6:1 roller rockers
ported heads and intake
headers
might get turned into a 377 (so low miles, doesn't need a rebore, maybe just a quick hone)
4l60E staying with a 3.07 rear gear ratio for cruising, highway, mountain driving
what will the 26's support, I know the 30's will more than do what I need, the 26's are just a tad less in cost
https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/c...l-injector-set
or
https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/c...l-injector-set
To recap where I am going:
96 LT1 will have the following (which I have on hand, or will)
LT4 Hot Cam
1.6:1 roller rockers
ported heads and intake
headers
might get turned into a 377 (so low miles, doesn't need a rebore, maybe just a quick hone)
4l60E staying with a 3.07 rear gear ratio for cruising, highway, mountain driving
what will the 26's support, I know the 30's will more than do what I need, the 26's are just a tad less in cost
https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/c...l-injector-set
or
https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/c...l-injector-set
Last edited by drcook; 11-24-2018 at 11:05 AM.
#2
Team Owner
With what will you control the pulse width on the injectors? The stock ECM might not be able to compensate. I tried 30pph on a 383 and it ran pig rich. It had to be tuned.
#3
Safety Car
Thread Starter
I can adjust the pulse width and flow rate inside the tables that the Jet Tuner accesses.
I acquired a base table from an LT4 so I can look at differences and how GM dealt with it also.
Thanks for answering and hope you and yours had a good holiday.
I acquired a base table from an LT4 so I can look at differences and how GM dealt with it also.
Thanks for answering and hope you and yours had a good holiday.
#4
Le Mans Master
IMO you likely need 28lb. I would suggest 26lbs and an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, to tweak fuel pressure up to get fuel trims inline. Be sure injectors are rated at 43.5 psi. Provided pump will deliver 60+ psi. You need too a have a good idea of the crank hp to calculate injector size.
#5
Race Director
#6
Team Owner
I think I read somewhere that a larger injector might have a little more difficulty at idle when adjusting since each millisecond dumps more fuel when it is larger than smaller.
#7
Team Owner
#8
Le Mans Master
You will need a somewhat loose converter for idle. PCM can deal with hot cam. Adding 28 ci and depending on airflow from porting. I would expect some tweaking. The OBD2 PCM can compensate for minor changes. Knock system will need some tweaking since lt4 had a unique knock sensor and plug in module
#9
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Thread Starter
Back when I was starting the parts acquisition, I spent days searching Craigslist until I found a NOS LT4 Knock module.
#11
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Thread Starter
FIC recommended the 30's. I was just asking about the others. Calculations say 32's. They have them in rebuilt also.
The different fuel injector size calculators I have found online say to use 32's (for my targetted HP level) at 80% duty rate.
While I can afford new, I can only afford to buy 1 time, so I have to get it right. I have been doing very careful shopping and have been managing to get most stuff at 60 to 80 % going rate (even new components) by waiting on sales.
Any mileage issues ?
The different fuel injector size calculators I have found online say to use 32's (for my targetted HP level) at 80% duty rate.
While I can afford new, I can only afford to buy 1 time, so I have to get it right. I have been doing very careful shopping and have been managing to get most stuff at 60 to 80 % going rate (even new components) by waiting on sales.
I'm running 33's in my 94 heads/cam LT1 without issue.
Last edited by drcook; 11-24-2018 at 07:23 PM.
#12
Race Director
With a good tune there shouldn't be gas mileage issues, mine still gets 26-28 mpg's on the highway and this is with 6M and 4.10 gears. There should be a table in your tuning software to correct the mpg display with the new injectors.
#14
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Thread Starter
Not really related, but just sharing, the new Equinox we got my wife (a 4 cyl turbo diesel) has plenty of power and the best MPG (calculated by the computer) I have gotten so far......50.3 mpg's. It averages 35 to 37 combined.
The sale goes through Monday night. I am going to call them Monday morning and do some more discussing.
FIC told me that if I bought them now, when I was ready to install them, I could send them back and they would check them out and they have a 3 year warranty.
Besides which size, the other dilemma is new or refurbed. From what I have read, injectors really aren't rebuilt as they can't completely take them apart.
The sale goes through Monday night. I am going to call them Monday morning and do some more discussing.
FIC told me that if I bought them now, when I was ready to install them, I could send them back and they would check them out and they have a 3 year warranty.
Besides which size, the other dilemma is new or refurbed. From what I have read, injectors really aren't rebuilt as they can't completely take them apart.
Last edited by drcook; 11-24-2018 at 07:57 PM.
#15
Team Owner
FIC recommended the 30's. I was just asking about the others. Calculations say 32's. They have them in rebuilt also.
The different fuel injector size calculators I have found online say to use 32's (for my targetted HP level) at 80% duty rate.
While I can afford new, I can only afford to buy 1 time, so I have to get it right. I have been doing very careful shopping and have been managing to get most stuff at 60 to 80 % going rate (even new components) by waiting on sales.
Any mileage issues ?
The different fuel injector size calculators I have found online say to use 32's (for my targetted HP level) at 80% duty rate.
While I can afford new, I can only afford to buy 1 time, so I have to get it right. I have been doing very careful shopping and have been managing to get most stuff at 60 to 80 % going rate (even new components) by waiting on sales.
Any mileage issues ?
#16
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If the pintle is shot, flow will be wrong. If the basket filter is dirty ,flow will be off and they replace it to begin with I'd go reman.
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The ECM should handle idle and light throttle operation as it uses the O2 sensor(s) to tweak the fuel tables, it's WOT op that requires the tune.
You can scan the tune tables with a monitor tool. I used dyno pulls to tweak FP for best WOT op.
You can scan the tune tables with a monitor tool. I used dyno pulls to tweak FP for best WOT op.