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Old 01-27-2019, 08:16 PM
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!990 Coup 6MT removed the front half of the exhaust and then removed the cat from the Y pipes the front half of the cat was shattered.Any ideas on a replacement.

I will not replace it til spring as I'm going out of the country in February for a month.

I'm looking for a replacement and it seems the EPA requires to replace with like so I need the 2 pre-cats and the main cat. Not sure if the pre-cats need replacing.

any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Old 01-27-2019, 09:26 PM
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I've got a magnaflow for my main cat. Idk what you would do for the pre cats though.
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:39 PM
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The best replacement is a straigt pipe in my opinion, although that may not be legal in your state. What is legal in your state will vary by quite abit.

Under Federal law I believe it is illegal to remove or disable a functioning emission control device. I don't believe it is illegal to remove a broken emissions control device.
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I am looking at straight pipes with out the pre-cat and flow master sells one, I live in Las Vegas Nevada, and that version is legal here.

I plan to gut the main cat and see if the pre-cats are good. I like to keep the originals

Reading on the internet indicates the cat's only last to about 70,000 miles, I have 72,000 miles.

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On my prior '88 I had the front Y replaced with a mandrel-bent 2 1/2" SS Y and the main cat replaced with a hi-flow unit.
It never failed the OH sniffer test, nor their quick visual inspection.
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If it's legal in your neck of the woods, eliminate the pre cats entirely.

On my 1988 the front cats were making rattling noise so I had them cut out and straight pipe welded in on the Y section. Now the car *seems* more responsive to the throttle, but that may be a subjective impression from the altered exhaust note. Here in NZ we don't need all the emission controls that the car came with (from California) so no issues with legality.

My neighbour reckons my C4 sounds much better now when I start it up!
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1990 Vette 6MT

I am looking at straight pipes with out the pre-cat and flow master sells one, I live in Las Vegas Nevada, and that version is legal here.

I plan to gut the main cat and see if the pre-cats are good. I like to keep the originals

Reading on the internet indicates the cat's only last to about 70,000 miles, I have 72,000 miles.

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Ray, Iím in Vegas too. Are you certain precats are not required? I canít find any shop that will remove them. Any exhaust shop you can recommend?
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First off I have a 1990 corvette with the L98 engine it was purchased new in Cali. I does not have a Engine Family Number EFN, so the cat just has to be legal in your state. In Nevada you do not have to have the Pre-Cats. When I registered the car in Nevada they only checked for the main cat.

Now you need the pre-cats if the main cat requires it. There are mfg's that sell the Y pipe with out pre-cats and there main cat, and the sell it to Nevada.

Here is a URL that discusses that point.

http://www.walkerexhaust.com/support...nverter-basics

I am going to do it myself. I took the exhaust off because the main cat was plugged, looks like the O2 sensor caused the cat to heat up and break up.

I'll put an oscilloscope on the O2 sensor this week end and verify it's bad.

From what I have read you must keep the car original until it no longer passes smog, then you can replace with what is legal in your state.

It takes me about 2 or 3 hours to drop the exhaust, remove the cat from the Y pipe and remove the broken up cat guts, the put it back on.

I am planning to buy a new cat and install it but the mfg of the cat suggest you get it running correctly before putting a new one on.

If you need anymore info we can go out for a beer and talk, or reply back. I am going out of the country later this month for a month, so I will not by the parts till then.

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Thanks for the info Ray. May reach out to you in a couple of months
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Do NOT use any pre-cat - period !!!! Not needed with modern CAT.
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Thatís the route I want to take but the couple of exhaust shops I spoke to said they are required and wouldnít remove them.
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The store cannot remove emissions equipment unless they are replacing it with an equal or better one BUTTTTT hypothetically, what if I came over for a visit, had a few beers with you and installed a TPIS header set with the Y-pipe to the main cat for testing purposes only? What if I got a call from the wife and had to run off and have not been able to make a trip there to put it back to original?

PS: I thought I heard someone say that it is only illegal when you get caught?

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We do not follow C.A.R.B in Nevada if the cat fails you can replace it with any system that is legal in Nevada. My cat failed.

Yeah come over and do a swap, it take 3 + hours depending id the car is from Nevada or any desert location. Cars from where ir rust not sure if I can,

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We do not follow C.A.R.B in Nevada if the cat fails you can replace it with any system that is legal in Nevada. My cat failed.

Yeah come over and do a swap, it take 3 + hours depending id the car is from Nevada or any desert location. Cars from where ir rust not sure if I can,

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The car is from southern Cali. Last few years in Vegas. Will PM you Ray. Thanks!
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The store cannot remove emissions equipment unless they are replacing it with an equal or better one BUTTTTT hypothetically, what if I came over for a visit, had a few beers with you and installed a TPIS header set with the Y-pipe to the main cat for testing purposes only? What if I got a call from the wife and had to run off and have not been able to make a trip there to put it back to original?

PS: I thought I heard someone say that it is only illegal when you get caught?
When getting Classic Rod plates out here, the car does not get tested for emissions
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When getting Classic Rod plates out here, the car does not get tested for emissions
I looked at that, you have to pass smog to get the plates then you have to go to a smog station to verify mileage every year, you can only drive, I think, 5000 miles a year, I have been thinking about that.

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I looked at that, you have to pass smog to get the plates then you have to go to a smog station to verify mileage every year, you can only drive, I think, 5000 miles a year, I have been thinking about that.

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I have had classic plates on a few days of my cars for years. Itís technically true there is a 5,000 mile limit per year, but, itís basically on the honor system. Every year the plates are renewed the dmv asks you to write your mileage down. Never once have they asked to verify my mileage. And the last few cars Iíve had, I did not need the initial smog test, as far as I can remember
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Originally Posted by L.V. Vette View Post

I have had classic plates on a few days of my cars for years. Itís technically true there is a 5,000 mile limit per year, but, itís basically on the honor system. Every year the plates are renewed the dmv asks you to write your mileage down. Never once have they asked to verify my mileage. And the last few cars Iíve had, I did not need the initial smog test, as far as I can remember
OK I'll go classic plates, I still have to buy a cat because I have not seen where to buy the Y pipe with out the pre-cats, by itself you always have to buy it as a kit, but it's cheap.

Thanks a lot for the info.

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the best stall converter came with the 86 vette. Its no longer listed in inventory. However, the latter years V6 s-10 had the same converter and can still be had.
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the best stall converter came with the 86 vette. Its no longer listed in inventory. However, the latter years V6 s-10 had the same converter and can still be had.
Catalytic or torque converter
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