Who is running a ZZ4 Cam in thier 113 Aluinum head engine??
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you could get some Large tube runners from AS&M to go with your cam and just port the plenum that way you still have the stock look with some extra breathing.
https://azspeed.com/product-category/intake-manifolds/
https://azspeed.com/product-category/intake-manifolds/
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springs from germany whod have guessed? Surprised to see that ASM has those runners for sale.
Those would be my choice esp when you see guys asking more than that for used parts.
Those would be my choice esp when you see guys asking more than that for used parts.
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ZZ4 cam is an excellent upgrade even with stock tune and long tube runners. I have gotten numerous cars to run 12s with bolt ons and that cam with stock untouched heads. I like running 1.5/1.6 rockers with it. If you do not run roller rockers, LT4 valve springs are a good idea while you have it apart/. 113 heads are the same as the ZZ4 heads. That cam for me with tpi and touching nothing else is usually worth one tenth and a mph with stock shift points. Idle will be a tad different. If you have someone burning a prom for you have it set up for ZZ4 cam.
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you could get some Large tube runners from AS&M to go with your cam and just port the plenum that way you still have the stock look with some extra breathing.
https://azspeed.com/product-category/intake-manifolds/
https://azspeed.com/product-category/intake-manifolds/
Best out of the box runners you can buy. Fully ported Edlebrocks offer the most potential but can be tough to find.
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ZZ4 cam is an excellent upgrade even with stock tune and long tube runners. I have gotten numerous cars to run 12s with bolt ons and that cam with stock untouched heads. I like running 1.5/1.6 rockers with it. If you do not run roller rockers, LT4 valve springs are a good idea while you have it apart/. 113 heads are the same as the ZZ4 heads. That cam for me with tpi and touching nothing else is usually worth one tenth and a mph with stock shift points. Idle will be a tad different. If you have someone burning a prom for you have it set up for ZZ4 cam.
Hadn't considered roller rockers, do they fit under the OEM valve covers? I ask because I just restored mine and don't want to replace them.
I will eventually look at getting a tune/prom burned for it. I will run it with the stock tune for a while, LT Headers are in the future too, so don't want to jump the gun.
I have the upper plenum and runners removed already and will continue with teardown/install Saturday morning...… hoping to be driving by lunchtime Sunday.
Thanks, Jared
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I am running this cam I assembled my L98 last year I've still have original heads that have been ported and polished with large valves and seats installed. New roller lifters and crane roller rockers. My engine is .30 over bored. I have a mail box tuned chip.also the lower intake was ported to the heads and polished as well. Car is a 6spd and with the 411 gears she is a beast 👍
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Good combo that doesnt cost a fortune. One think I like about the hotcam is it isnt trying to mimic a bigger cam at the expense of the valvetrain life.
The damage/noise is never worth a few lbs of torque. Who wants to do it twice, I dont. Hotcam esp after tuning has a very nice idle its not rumpity but sure feels like a bigger cam
Last one I fooled with (lt4) with ported heads/intake/shorty headers and tune with 2 200+ lb guys in it would haze the tires real easy, ran mid 12s spinning through 1st and 2nd.
That would lay waste to a ZR-1 big time for comparisons sake.
The damage/noise is never worth a few lbs of torque. Who wants to do it twice, I dont. Hotcam esp after tuning has a very nice idle its not rumpity but sure feels like a bigger cam
Last one I fooled with (lt4) with ported heads/intake/shorty headers and tune with 2 200+ lb guys in it would haze the tires real easy, ran mid 12s spinning through 1st and 2nd.
That would lay waste to a ZR-1 big time for comparisons sake.
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here is what mine looked like. I had no trouble fitting Comp Cam 1.6:1 roller rockers under them after the mod.
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