96 injectors
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Burning Brakes
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96 injectors
I have just read several threads on here and my head spun off my neck. What is the best technology for my stock lt1. As some point I want to do a hotcam or a little more aggressive but I presume Im going to have to get new injectors at that time and I cant buy something now that will be correct now and work later.. Bosch per FIS is the best.. but why are they $440 at FIS and $160 here: https://www.southbayfuelinjectors.co...-injectors-lt1
Or is that $160 each? Doubt that..
Here is what I found at FIC
https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/c...osch-3-for-tpi
Am I even choosing the right injector?
Or is that $160 each? Doubt that..
Here is what I found at FIC
https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/c...osch-3-for-tpi
Am I even choosing the right injector?
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Burning Brakes
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I have a set of the Bosch injectors from South Bay Injectors in my C4 and they were new, not rebuilt units. They were also a "matched" set. I paid the $170 and got eight New Bosch injectors from South Bay. They have never leaked or had any problems in the several years of usage. South Bay is closer to where I live and they have treated me with great customer support and fast responses.
The injectors from South Bay also come with a 3 year warranty.... Works for me.
F.I.C. is another good supplier of injectors, I have heard nothing but praises for the owner and how he treats his customers. They were farther away and more expensive so I bought from S.B.I. and have been very satisfied. Your choice....
Best regards,
Chris
The injectors from South Bay also come with a 3 year warranty.... Works for me.
F.I.C. is another good supplier of injectors, I have heard nothing but praises for the owner and how he treats his customers. They were farther away and more expensive so I bought from S.B.I. and have been very satisfied. Your choice....
Best regards,
Chris
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Burning Brakes
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From: Fort Mill, SC
I have a set of the Bosch injectors from South Bay Injectors in my C4 and they were new, not rebuilt units. They were also a "matched" set. I paid the $170 and got eight New Bosch injectors from South Bay. They have never leaked or had any problems in the several years of usage. South Bay is closer to where I live and they have treated me with great customer support and fast responses.
The injectors from South Bay also come with a 3 year warranty.... Works for me.
F.I.C. is another good supplier of injectors, I have heard nothing but praises for the owner and how he treats his customers. They were farther away and more expensive so I bought from S.B.I. and have been very satisfied. Your choice....
Best regards,
Chris
The injectors from South Bay also come with a 3 year warranty.... Works for me.
F.I.C. is another good supplier of injectors, I have heard nothing but praises for the owner and how he treats his customers. They were farther away and more expensive so I bought from S.B.I. and have been very satisfied. Your choice....
Best regards,
Chris
The only complaint Ive seen was user error.. used a very corrosive cleaner and melted the plastic on the wire plugs..
I suspect mine might be fine with a cleaning.. you can back flow clean with this setup as well. Not sure if that is recommended though, I never see FIC mention it.
Anyway.. ive obsessed for like 6 hrs so far.. need to stop.
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No longer crank times, no leaky injectors, no problems at all from the injectors.
Cleaning and testing Electronic Fuel Injectors at home might be "fun" but that requires a high level of precision along with expensive equipment to simulate gasoline flowing. I have a lot of cool tools but that is not in my garage yet. For now I will trust my local re-builder with my Diesel injectors and South Bay for my Corvette needs.
I have spent years looking for the best way to chemically "clean" my injectors to smooth out the idle on occasion. I have a 3M kit that uses a bottle of cleaner that flows through the fuel injectors and does a real number on them. The cost of the cans and the adapters, hoses and all the other bologna made me finally settle on the B&G 44K Fuel Injection Systems Cleaner. It is not cheap at ~$20 a bottle but it really cleans up the idle and the overall performance. There are so many people using the B&G materials every day, it not a "snake oil" it is a great product that helps maintain your injectors.
Best regards,
Chris
Cleaning and testing Electronic Fuel Injectors at home might be "fun" but that requires a high level of precision along with expensive equipment to simulate gasoline flowing. I have a lot of cool tools but that is not in my garage yet. For now I will trust my local re-builder with my Diesel injectors and South Bay for my Corvette needs.
I have spent years looking for the best way to chemically "clean" my injectors to smooth out the idle on occasion. I have a 3M kit that uses a bottle of cleaner that flows through the fuel injectors and does a real number on them. The cost of the cans and the adapters, hoses and all the other bologna made me finally settle on the B&G 44K Fuel Injection Systems Cleaner. It is not cheap at ~$20 a bottle but it really cleans up the idle and the overall performance. There are so many people using the B&G materials every day, it not a "snake oil" it is a great product that helps maintain your injectors.
Best regards,
Chris
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Burning Brakes
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From: Fort Mill, SC
No longer crank times, no leaky injectors, no problems at all from the injectors.
Cleaning and testing Electronic Fuel Injectors at home might be "fun" but that requires a high level of precision along with expensive equipment to simulate gasoline flowing. I have a lot of cool tools but that is not in my garage yet. For now I will trust my local re-builder with my Diesel injectors and South Bay for my Corvette needs.
I have spent years looking for the best way to chemically "clean" my injectors to smooth out the idle on occasion. I have a 3M kit that uses a bottle of cleaner that flows through the fuel injectors and does a real number on them. The cost of the cans and the adapters, hoses and all the other bologna made me finally settle on the B&G 44K Fuel Injection Systems Cleaner. It is not cheap at ~$20 a bottle but it really cleans up the idle and the overall performance. There are so many people using the B&G materials every day, it not a "snake oil" it is a great product that helps maintain your injectors.
Best regards,
Chris
Cleaning and testing Electronic Fuel Injectors at home might be "fun" but that requires a high level of precision along with expensive equipment to simulate gasoline flowing. I have a lot of cool tools but that is not in my garage yet. For now I will trust my local re-builder with my Diesel injectors and South Bay for my Corvette needs.
I have spent years looking for the best way to chemically "clean" my injectors to smooth out the idle on occasion. I have a 3M kit that uses a bottle of cleaner that flows through the fuel injectors and does a real number on them. The cost of the cans and the adapters, hoses and all the other bologna made me finally settle on the B&G 44K Fuel Injection Systems Cleaner. It is not cheap at ~$20 a bottle but it really cleans up the idle and the overall performance. There are so many people using the B&G materials every day, it not a "snake oil" it is a great product that helps maintain your injectors.
Best regards,
Chris
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Hello again barchetta1!
For the price of a can it should be "filled with platinum".... $28 a can is getting up there. They used to offer deals on multiple cans but not anymore it appears.
Companies like to make "New and Improved versions". I will use it when I see it. BG makes great products and I have used many of them without any regrets.
Here in the Northern Virginia area virtually every shop and dealer I know use the BG products and rave about their success with the BG 44K. I put a can in my Buick just days ago, I use it in every car I own and will continue to use it until it gets eclipsed by another product that can do the job better.
The 3M system works well but you have to disable the fuel pump (Fuse) and attach the can to the fuel rail and then you run the engine with the 3M cleaner only going to the injectors. It worked but it was a lot more to set it up and put it away. They still sell the 3M kits and they have adapters for a lot of vehicles and Corvettes. The last time I bought a 3M can of cleaner it was about $15 for the can that lets the engine run for 10-12 minutes. If I am not mistaken the 3M material was more caustic and could damage old injectors if used too often.
Best regards,
Chris
For the price of a can it should be "filled with platinum".... $28 a can is getting up there. They used to offer deals on multiple cans but not anymore it appears.
Companies like to make "New and Improved versions". I will use it when I see it. BG makes great products and I have used many of them without any regrets.
Here in the Northern Virginia area virtually every shop and dealer I know use the BG products and rave about their success with the BG 44K. I put a can in my Buick just days ago, I use it in every car I own and will continue to use it until it gets eclipsed by another product that can do the job better.
The 3M system works well but you have to disable the fuel pump (Fuse) and attach the can to the fuel rail and then you run the engine with the 3M cleaner only going to the injectors. It worked but it was a lot more to set it up and put it away. They still sell the 3M kits and they have adapters for a lot of vehicles and Corvettes. The last time I bought a 3M can of cleaner it was about $15 for the can that lets the engine run for 10-12 minutes. If I am not mistaken the 3M material was more caustic and could damage old injectors if used too often.
Best regards,
Chris
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I have just read several threads on here and my head spun off my neck. What is the best technology for my stock lt1. As some point I want to do a hotcam or a little more aggressive but I presume Im going to have to get new injectors at that time and I cant buy something now that will be correct now and work later.. Bosch per FIS is the best.. but why are they $440 at FIS and $160 here: https://www.southbayfuelinjectors.co...-injectors-lt1
Or is that $160 each? Doubt that..
Here is what I found at FIC
https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/c...osch-3-for-tpi
Am I even choosing the right injector?
Or is that $160 each? Doubt that..
Here is what I found at FIC
https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/c...osch-3-for-tpi
Am I even choosing the right injector?
The stock injectors were improved starting in 95 to better cope with corn oil in our gas.
I had the complete Hot Cam kit installed 70,000 miles ago on my 95 and I'm still running with my stock OEM injectors at 137K.
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Burning Brakes
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Sorry if I missed this but are you having issues with your injectors today?
The stock injectors were improved starting in 95 to better cope with corn oil in our gas.
I had the complete Hot Cam kit installed 70,000 miles ago on my 95 and I'm still running with my stock OEM injectors at 137K.
The stock injectors were improved starting in 95 to better cope with corn oil in our gas.
I had the complete Hot Cam kit installed 70,000 miles ago on my 95 and I'm still running with my stock OEM injectors at 137K.
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Send it off for cleaning. A bench flow testing is a good way to really know if there is an issue or not. I sent one batch and was called up about them. Seems like a weird thing since they were "fine" when they were in the car, whatever that means. I had a filter that collapsed for whatever reason. Since it was only 1, I let it go. Had it been a few, I'd be more nervous. With the "mechanic in a can", all you have is the SOTP which is good only for major changes.
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Burning Brakes
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Send it off for cleaning. A bench flow testing is a good way to really know if there is an issue or not. I sent one batch and was called up about them. Seems like a weird thing since they were "fine" when they were in the car, whatever that means. I had a filter that collapsed for whatever reason. Since it was only 1, I let it go. Had it been a few, I'd be more nervous. With the "mechanic in a can", all you have is the SOTP which is good only for major changes.
I dont know if you remember me but you were instrumental in helping me buy my c4. Im still very happy with my decision.. thanks again.I just need to get up the energy to pull them. I did buy a pressure gauge last week and its dead on.
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I think I will Akim.. Ive been secretly reading your posts on here I dont know if you remember me but you were instrumental in helping me buy my c4. Im still very happy with my decision.. thanks again.
I just need to get up the energy to pull them. I did buy a pressure gauge last week and its dead on.
I dont know if you remember me but you were instrumental in helping me buy my c4. Im still very happy with my decision.. thanks again.I just need to get up the energy to pull them. I did buy a pressure gauge last week and its dead on.
Dead on as in what? When you turn the key to "Run"? Does it hold? What about when you do a WOT? Does it still supply the right amount of pressure?
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Probably not. I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning. Been that way since I was young so I can't play the "Alzheimer's Card" and ask for excuses.
Dead on as in what? When you turn the key to "Run"? Does it hold? What about when you do a WOT? Does it still supply the right amount of pressure?
Dead on as in what? When you turn the key to "Run"? Does it hold? What about when you do a WOT? Does it still supply the right amount of pressure?
I did not check WOT.. What is the right amount of pressure @ WOT? Same as idle or higher?
Yeah we spoke on the phone.. I think you thought I was a little nutz.. I was very enthusiastic and determined to get a car.. but you steered me away from a few dangerous situations.. so I appreciate that.
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Hmmm.. I didnt check for a long time.. it was 41lbs and seem to hold for about 10 min. How long should it hold ?
I did not check WOT.. What is the right amount of pressure @ WOT? Same as idle or higher?
Yeah we spoke on the phone.. I think you thought I was a little nutz.. I was very enthusiastic and determined to get a car.. but you steered me away from a few dangerous situations.. so I appreciate that.
I did not check WOT.. What is the right amount of pressure @ WOT? Same as idle or higher?
Yeah we spoke on the phone.. I think you thought I was a little nutz.. I was very enthusiastic and determined to get a car.. but you steered me away from a few dangerous situations.. so I appreciate that.
At WOT, it should drop a bit but get back around there after you hit the pedal. If it doesn't, it might be that the pump cannot keep up
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Burning Brakes
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Ok Im gonna go out and throw the gauge on it now.. I'll reference the FSM. thanks.