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I need to locate this firm. I don't know if I'm spelling the name correctly. He makes chips for ECM/PCM's ....can someone provide a website or phone #.
Thanks for the assistance.
I've got the stock stage 2 chip in my '92 six speed. I didn't notice a lot of difference, but I think I noticed some. As I remember it seemed to make the throttle response feel a little better so that it felt like it had just a little more zip. Not a noticeably big difference in acceleration though. The car does run cooler than it used to, which is good. You have to use a 160 degree thermostat.
Ed Wright does a good job of tuning cars, but keep this in mind. No matter how much they claim odds are that on a 100% stock car you're not gonna see squat from a new chip. GM did a LOT of research to tune these cars, some off the shelf chips such as hypertech are dyno proven to actually lose horsepower.
IMHO the "performance chip" fad is a complete load of :bs Unless you've got some serious mods you don't need a new chip & at that nobody ever mods exactly the same so an off the shelf chip still won't be a good answer. If you've got other mods in your future just do the chip last! That way you'll only have to do it once!
If requested, I can post LT1 Edit shots of Ed Wright's tuning versus stock. From my observations, the overall tuning is just a bit added timing in the lower RPM range and very minor leaning of fuel in the same. The obligatory lower fan set points are also included.
As Nathan stated above, the stock programming is quite aggressive and has a good range of adaptability.
So what you guys are saying is to keep the $159.00 in your pocket and forget the Wright chip? Will the PCM compensate for the headers, K&N air box and Borla's? :confused:
Ed Wright can program a great custom chip IF you goto his shop and let HIM tune it on his dyno.
Vic
Yeah, I agree.....I had to rent some dyno time so I could give him some data to lean my chip out. I am only 3 hours north of him...If I could do it all over again I would take the car to him and let him tune it on his dyno.
I've been skipping over this post and just couldn't stay away..
There are some things in here that are buggin the heck out of me...
1. To make a blanket statement that NO gains could be had by a custom chip is just nieve. A simple change of the fan temp kickons, coupled with a lower Tstat, will yeild some improvement due to lower operating temps. Why do you think that guys wait in line when racing and run their engines as little as possible, to keep engine temps down. I know my engine for one runs its best at ~160 F. When it gets above 200 forget it.
2. EVERY stock car I have scanned and tuned had knock counts with the stock chip. Not only that they are all extremely FAT in the fuel, unless someone did some intake work. Its very true that GM spent many hours and paid engineers good money to develope the code, the $6e is a great def. However GM is not going to put cars out on the road with out a nice Safety Factor.
If you don't believe that a chip can make a difference, then ask TripleBlack88 next time you see him on here. We did his car this past fall and at E-town he couldn't even begin to hook up with street tires on. He wasn't able to improve his ET's because of this, but he said his car never felt stronger. Its a basically stock car, that runs real well. He realizes that his tires are the weak point and he will need drag radial to put the new found power to the road...
So I guess that it boils down to what your doing...if you want every ounce of power out of your engine, then you need a custom tune. If your a street cruiser, then probably not...Yet if you ask TripleBlack88 (steve) if he can feel a difference in throttle response, startups, cooling and all around better feeling car, I think you will be looking for one.
Like I said before, its all up to what you want to do. :thumbs:
Let me clarify my stance a little as it can sound a little misleading.
There is always power to be had from some custom tuning, but that's just it "custom" tuning. Any off the shelf chip will just be a guess and as such probably not worth it. For stock or very few mods the performance gain from such a "guess" chip probably won't justify the cost, or at least not in my book. The stock program can adapt fairly well to small changes so don't waste your money on a custom tune with them. Do the large changes then worry about the chip. Sure there's performance to be had, but given my budget I try and look at it from what's the most cost effective solution standpoint.
OK...I don't want to belabor the point but I thought that it was the favored opinion that these cars are made to run at the higher temps. Infact, the higher temps were perfered over lower operating ones as the engines performed better. Then why introduce a chip and t stat that causes the engine to operate below the desired temp and thereby reduce performance???
I feel that we are all pointing in the same direction on many of these areas now, or at least on the same page....
Nathan you are exactly right with the off the shelfers....I would also like to add that any of the chips I do, the individuals are told that they can't get the most out of the tune without it being done in person, as tripleblack88 took the incentive to drive nearly 5 hrs each way. And I would feel safe to say he is getting 99% of the power available now. Conversly somone who makes a change such as injectors to larger ones, for future mods etc. (Not that I really want to go there, since our last discussion :crazy:, but for sake of example, I can get there car into the sorta speak infield rather than left field with a chip to accomidate their larger injectors etc. This is something I stress very much when doing these and its also why I offer upgrades for free.
As for the temperature, well I too have read articles, post, ect. that allude to higher temps being what these cars like. I would say that GMs main concern for picking the operating temp they did was to satify the tree huggers. All I can tell you is that nearly everyone that races, shoots for lower temps. As described above my car gets VERY sluggish above 200F at the strip. Now once again, we are talking about people that are concerned about .1sec. You gonna notice that on the street? NOPE. But for some that is the difference between a :D and a :cry.
So before we all beat this to death we all have to sit back and decide what makes sense to our wants. Truthfully if I was at 12.5sec 1/4 mile and I knew that spending 150 bucks could pick me up .1sec, I wouldn't spend the money. Although if I was at 12.0 and I thought that spending the money on doing any of the items in this post would get me a 11.99sec 1/4. I wouldn't even hesitate. To each his own. ;)