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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 11:56 PM
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Anyone know if the 4+3 can be made to turn on with a separate relay aside from the factory C4 ECM/harness?
I've got a ls swap with Holley terminator x.
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Yes, it can. When I switched to Holley EFI in my 85 I used the factory wiring,(keeping the switch that doesn't allow OD in 1st gear intact) added a relay, and used the switch on the console. Are you looking to put the Holley in charge of the overdrive or have manual control of it?
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You can use a stand alone relay to control it. (Manually)

Or you can use the TCC output from the holley to control it as well. Just do lock up as throttle % by speed and you should be good to go.
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/articl...erdrive-bypass

I did this conversion...........works great. OD on demand, when you want it, not when the computer gives it to you.
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Here are some of the 4+3 parameter tables out of my 87 if you ever want to start integrating it into a modern ECM.



TCC values which I believe still come into play for OD.



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Originally Posted by Mixednuttz
Yes, it can. When I switched to Holley EFI in my 85 I used the factory wiring,(keeping the switch that doesn't allow OD in 1st gear intact) added a relay, and used the switch on the console. Are you looking to put the Holley in charge of the overdrive or have manual control of it?
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Originally Posted by zohsixbyrd
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Yes, manual control. The EFI doesn't even know the OD exists in mine.
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Originally Posted by Mixednuttz
Yes, manual control. The EFI doesn't even know the OD exists in mine.
Which Holley are you using?
The link above mentions using the factory ecm so I’m assuming you did something different? Can I get a Barney style set of directions? Lol

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Originally Posted by zohsixbyrd
Which Holley are you using?
The link above mentions using the factory ecm so I’m assuming you did something different? Can I get a Barney style set of directions? Lol
I'm running a Holley HP. (I would suggest the Dominator if you're planning on running boost. I ran out of IOs quick once i added the turbocharger!)


This is how my overdrive control is wired now.
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Originally Posted by Mixednuttz
I'm running a Holley HP. (I would suggest the Dominator if you're planning on running boost. I ran out of IOs quick once i added the turbocharger!)


This is how my overdrive control is wired now.
Already got a Terminator X installed.
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Originally Posted by Mixednuttz
I'm running a Holley HP. (I would suggest the Dominator if you're planning on running boost. I ran out of IOs quick once i added the turbocharger!)


This is how my overdrive control is wired now.
If I’m reading this correctly there’s a black wire from the OD select switch that changes to a light blue wire which goes into the factory ECM? Since you’ve got a Holley I take it you added a pink wire in place of the LT Blue that originally went into the ECM?
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Originally Posted by zohsixbyrd
If I’m reading this correctly there’s a black wire from the OD select switch that changes to a light blue wire which goes into the factory ECM? Since you’ve got a Holley I take it you added a pink wire in place of the LT Blue that originally went into the ECM?
It's been a while since I worked it but I believe the black wire changed to light blue. The pink wire is just the 12v + constant with ignition in start and run. I had plenty of those left over from the factory ECM harness when I stripped it. I would check a wiring diagram for your year if it isn't an 85 though.
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