P0441 code
I have replaced the vacuum switch, solenoid canister and the charcoal canister behind the right wheel. I took it to my local Chevy dealership and they can’t find the problem. If anyone could offer advice I would sure appreciate it!
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This is the purge valve, and is supposed to have an L-shaped rubber hose open to atmosphere on it (marked as 15 on the diagram). Many shops and owners who don't know otherwise see this hose-to-nowhere and plug it, or indeed after 25 years the purge valves do indeed go bad. If you did indeed replace it, it should have come with this L-shaped hose open to atmosphere attached. Is it still open to atmosphere, or was it connected somewhere or capped off?
If this is the part you replaced, and the L-shaped hose is present and open to atmosphere as designed, the next step is to replace the EVAP purge solenoid, marked as 7 in the diagram. And check to make sure all the vacuum hoses in the EVAP system haven't dry-rotted.
Yes I have replaced those items and the vacuum switch is open. The lines all look good I don’t see any rot at all. I brought the car to my local dealership and they couldn’t figure it out. The only other thing wrong is when I get down to below half a tank of gas the car hesitates. I was thinking about replacing my fuel pump sock. If you have other suggestions I’m sure listening. Thanks for the help and diagram!
Yes I have replaced those items and the vacuum switch is open. The lines all look good I don’t see any rot at all. I brought the car to my local dealership and they couldn’t figure it out. The only other thing wrong is when I get down to below half a tank of gas the car hesitates. I was thinking about replacing my fuel pump sock. If you have other suggestions I’m sure listening. Thanks for the help and diagram!
Does the car hesitate all the time, or only when you stomp on it? My car hesitates when you stomp on it with low fuel as well because, well, the fuel pickup isn't in a position in our cars to really work when you accelerate suddenly. But if it's all the time, and you're getting an EVAP purge code, I suppose it's possible that somehow you're drawing a massive vacuum in the tank that's making it difficult to pump fuel out. Easy way to find out is to pull over when this condition is happening and remove the fuel cap. Wait for the pressure to equalize, then replace the cap. If the hesitation goes away, then something is seriously wrong inside the tank. If the hesitation is exactly the same, then there's another problem with fuel delivery.
Just to check, but after replacing the parts, the codes were reset, yes? On the OBDII cars, if I'm recalling correctly, it would take 50 ignition cycles for the code to reset by itself.
In any event, if all those components have been replaced and the lines look good and the code keeps coming back, I'm afraid I'm out of my element for the 96-specific vehicles. My service manual only covers the 94-95, which doesn't use the same EVAP setup and of course doesn't include diagnostic troubleshooting for the OBDII-specific codes. Hopefully someone who does have the 96 FSM can jump in here and help out. If you'd like one of your own, they're only $20 from RockAuto. Here's a link: https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...324&cc=1041398
I have a 96 and I chased some codes around with it. Being an ODBII car your good because that is the same platform going on today so many techs can look at it. But throwing parts at it is not always the answer. Verify all wiring is properly sending signals with volt meter and test light. Use an old school test light. The LED test light can sometimes show a solid circuit but its not really strong enough as it should be so its false. The old test light will be really dim on a weak signal. I have chased down two issues on my MAF and CKP sensors with the test light and volt meter. One was a weak signal and one was no signal.
I am not sure what state you are in but in TX at 25 years this car can be registered as an Antique and these items in the PCM can be turned off and no longer needed for that type of registration.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/11...6c88b28000.jpg
This is the purge valve, and is supposed to have an L-shaped rubber hose open to atmosphere on it (marked as 15 on the diagram). Many shops and owners who don't know otherwise see this hose-to-nowhere and plug it, or indeed after 25 years the purge valves do indeed go bad. If you did indeed replace it, it should have come with this L-shaped hose open to atmosphere attached. Is it still open to atmosphere, or was it connected somewhere or capped off?
If this is the part you replaced, and the L-shaped hose is present and open to atmosphere as designed, the next step is to replace the EVAP purge solenoid, marked as 7 in the diagram. And check to make sure all the vacuum hoses in the EVAP system haven't dry-rotted.
Last edited by rak41; Mar 17, 2021 at 09:20 PM.
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Prior to my purchase (above) my local dealer ordered one for me - and it was the wrong part. They did not order by part number but rather by vehicle.
Last edited by car addict; Mar 18, 2021 at 10:41 AM.
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Prior to my purchase (above) my local dealer ordered one for me - and it was the wrong part. They did not order by part number but rather by vehicle.
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