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Old May 10, 2021 | 12:31 PM
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Is there a better 6 speed option for 1990 to 1996 corvettes? I've thought of a LS swap with a manual car. From what I've read, its not a straight forward deal to get the LS to mate to the original manual. So is there a aftermarket 6 speed that you can mount the C channel tq brace to?
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Is there a better 6 speed option for 1990 to 1996 corvettes? I've thought of a LS swap with a manual car. From what I've read, its not a straight forward deal to get the LS to mate to the original manual. So is there a aftermarket 6 speed that you can mount the C channel tq brace to?
Not that I know of...

But there is a 5 speed if you don't want to track down a ZF...

https://shiftsst.com/blog/post/1984-1988-corvette.html

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Old May 10, 2021 | 03:29 PM
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No matter what non original transmission you pick you are going to be dealing with c beam. You will need a fabricator to make either an adapter for c beam or bracket to support nose of differential and a crossmember for transmission. 93-95 f body lt1 T56 and everything from flywheel to driveshaft yoke would leave you to deal with hose for slave cylinder and c beam adapter. IDK for sure about c beam and drive shaft lengths,
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Old May 10, 2021 | 04:11 PM
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No matter what non original transmission you pick you are going to be dealing with c beam. Ycylinder and c beam adapter. IDK for sure about c beam and ,
It's been dealt with for a T56. They sell the whole kit for an LS swap or one can but the C Beam adapter individually as I did for a T56 swap in a 4+3.

http://www.brphotrods.com/mm5/mercha...ory_Code=CNV31
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that's what I was hoping to hear, I hate being the first to reinvent the wheel. It much easier to follow someone else and just tweak that they did.
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For an LS swap, this route requires the purchase of a T-56 plus this $479 kit. Or you can use the stock ZF6 transmission by adapting/replacing the bellhousing. For example, for $765 there is the Quick Time RM-6039, which has the added advantage of being SFI rated. There may be other off-the-shelf options, too. The ZF6 is capable of handling a good bit of power, so this seems like a lot cheaper and easier route if you still have a good stock 6-speed.
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currently working on getting a car, I had a 1990 with a 6 speed. currently after a 1995. Can't find much, not a good year to buy. So I get to sit and plan. Still not sure if I'll just do heads and cam on the LT1 or go with a LS. Depends on what I find.
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Originally Posted by Pokky
currently working on getting a car, I had a 1990 with a 6 speed. currently after a 1995. Can't find much, not a good year to buy. So I get to sit and plan. Still not sure if I'll just do heads and cam on the LT1 or go with a LS. Depends on what I find.
It really will depend on your budget. Heads and cam on the LT1 will be an order of magnitude cheaper and simpler than the LS swap. Even if you built an entire 396 stroker LT1 it would still be way cheaper and easier.

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Originally Posted by Pokky
Is there a better 6 speed option for 1990 to 1996 corvettes? I've thought of a LS swap with a manual car. From what I've read, its not a straight forward deal to get the LS to mate to the original manual. So is there a aftermarket 6 speed that you can mount the C channel tq brace to?
I'm surprised no one's asked you already, but what's wrong with the ZF6? Is yours broken in some way?
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I just don't like the way it shifts, I had a 98 mustang GT that just shifted wonderfully, (my 82 year old mom still owns) that is what I'm chasing. Now it could be that the GM shift is what I don't like and the trans is good. But everyone that I've owned, or test drove all felt the same. even the late model GTO's that I've owned weren't great.
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Originally Posted by Pokky
I just don't like the way it shifts, I had a 98 mustang GT that just shifted wonderfully, (my 82 year old mom still owns) that is what I'm chasing. Now it could be that the GM shift is what I don't like and the trans is good. But everyone that I've owned, or test drove all felt the same. even the late model GTO's that I've owned weren't great.
i can relate. Its clunky, long throwed, heavy. Putting a short throw shifter just makes its notchier

its basically a diesel truck transmission, not smooth like a honda

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AR5 and CD009 have both been adapted to LS engines, with kits readily available.
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Originally Posted by Pokky
I just don't like the way it shifts, I had a 98 mustang GT that just shifted wonderfully, (my 82 year old mom still owns) that is what I'm chasing. Now it could be that the GM shift is what I don't like and the trans is good. But everyone that I've owned, or test drove all felt the same. even the late model GTO's that I've owned weren't great.
Late model GTOs don't have ZF6 transmissions. I believe that was some version of the T56. I found the ZF6 to be a bit notchy when cold, but it worked quite well when warmed up and especially at high engine revs (where some transmission don't shift worth a ****). IOW, when it matters, the ZF6 works well. The T6060 in my 2020 Camaro is the same way. Some of those ultra-slick Japanese transmissions that feel so awesome in a parking lot fail badly at high revs and the syncros wear out quickly. The Getrag M82 in current Mustang GTs is also bad in this way (and they use a T6060 in the GT350 and new Mach1 for this reason). I think that in order to get a T56 that will handle the same loads as the ZF6, you will be spending some serious cash.
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I'll take your ZF6 off your hands if you don't like it.
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Very strange. I have a 91 zr1 and a 90 both with zf6. I also have a c5 with a t56.

Never in a million years would I swap to a t56 from a zf6. I wonder if your zf is operating properly?

I am not trashing the t56, its just that my zf shifts much smoother and "eats" the shift better than the t56. I find the comment interesting and I wonder if its a matter of condition of either my t56 or your zf6 or a bit of both.
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I'm hoping to get it Iola swap meet this summer, I the past there has been trans guys there, (techs) I will definitely be going after them with lots of questions. I would prefer to run the stock trans and mod the LT1 (heads/cam/exhaust). I've read that there is a old aftermarket shifter for the zf 6 speed. does help at all?
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Very strange. I have a 91 zr1 and a 90 both with zf6. I also have a c5 with a t56.

Never in a million years would I swap to a t56 from a zf6. .
Smoother shifting but parts are getting scarce from what I read and local trans shops get a glazed look when you ask if they can rebuild a ZF. A T56 is doable by a DIY person who has mechanical skills or a local shop can do it.

I have no complaints about any of my T56's I have owned.
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Smoother shifting but parts are getting scarce from what I read and local trans shops get a glazed look when you ask if they can rebuild a ZF. A T56 is doable by a DIY person who has mechanical skills or a local shop can do it.

I have no complaints about any of my T56's I have owned.
And there's always the Magnum...
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Originally Posted by Pokky
I just don't like the way it shifts,
Then you ain't gonna like a T56...that's for sure.



Originally Posted by Pokky
even the late model GTO's that I've owned weren't great.
....aaand there is the proof. The GTO has a T56. I've had 4 of them. I have had pretty terrible results with them; both with liking the "way it shifts" and durability.
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Originally Posted by TommyFox
A T56 is doable by a DIY person who has mechanical skills or a local shop can do it.
A good thing, since you're far more likely to be DIY'ing that, than with a ZF6. Guess how I know that?

















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