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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 03:11 PM
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Header bolt backed out. Not sure how long it has been like this, but hasnt leaked.
93 LT1 DRM 1 3/4 SS headers, with Fel Pro gaskets. Cylinder #3.
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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 07:38 PM
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I have a 92 Foxbody that one of the header bolts backs out. Only the furthest rear bolt on the passenger side. I have not lost it yet. I check and snug it back up periodically. Never had a leak because of it.
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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 08:10 PM
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I thinking the header gaskets and headers have been there so long, its probably glued pretty darn good.. Headers are thick too..
Just weird after all this time, over 12 years.
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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 08:44 PM
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What about safety wiring the bolts? Need to drill a small hole through the head for the wire, but easy to do. Just a thought.
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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 08:49 PM
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I just screwed it back in, and a dab of loctice, high temp for measure.
It has time serts in there, not heli coils.. If that backed out, well, I would just pull the engine, and do some modifications...

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Old Jul 4, 2021 | 09:24 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 10:06 AM
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Stage 8....All my header bolts and collectors have them. Easy to use and never have loose bolts again.
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 10:21 AM
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Its still odd it came out, loosened. If torqued properly, using ARP header bolts, I am wondering if maybe the time serts actually loosened.
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It's happened to me on the back of 8. Just need to check once in a while.
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I may need to find the tool that inserts it and see..
I also need to stop using my phone type, damn negative one fonts, I cant see anything without my glasses...

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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 04:53 PM
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I have no experience with any of the these products but do recall seeing these...
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/BPP-200-076
...and while surfing, stumbled across this interesting washer concept...
https://paceperformance.com/i-119817...-bolt-kit.html
Safety wire works but can be a pita for those inaccessible areas.
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stew86MCSS396
I have no experience with any of the these products but do recall seeing these...
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/BPP-200-076
...and while surfing, stumbled across this interesting washer concept...
https://paceperformance.com/i-119817...-bolt-kit.html
Safety wire works but can be a pita for those inaccessible areas.
I don't know. Never tried any of these things at the time. First one would make me wonder if it is more susceptible to sticking in the head. I have used the one I recommended.
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Old Jul 7, 2021 | 08:33 AM
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You will have to zoom in but the stage 8 setups work great and are re-usable.

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I have the plain old ARP Header Bolts and they have never loosened in the 25+ years on my Hedman Headers. I torqued them to specs and never had to tighten any of them.
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 01:07 PM
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buy 5/16 id nordlock washers. drill them out with a die grinder to fit the header bolts. torqe them down and they will never loosen up. also for aluminum heads. headers and felpro gaskets its a good idea to retorque after a couple heat cycles. this is very common header bolts get loose. Ive used nordlock washers for years on headers and never had one come loose or leak, and its half the cost of stage 8 or other locking bolts. make sure to use the brown anti sieze on the header bolts
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Found the problem. After putting the bracket into bolt to the air conditioner, I took the bracket off cause I was trying to troubleshoot vibration from the air conditioner. The bolt I used was longer than the time sert, so when I took it out it loosened the time sert.
i have a new time sert I will install soon.
Arp bolts are fine, the other ones after wel over 12 years, are still tight.
This was purely owner error.
There are some great header bolts suggested here.
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 01:26 PM
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Years ago I used these header gaskets. Never an issue.
Good flat headers make a big difference too.
https://www.earls.com.au/shop/earls-...eader-seal-16/


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I had issues with header bolts backing out about 40-years ago. I've been using high collar split lock washers (sold as header bolt lock washers) for many years and never had one back out. Just make sure the bolts you use engage far enough in the heads.

Cheap and effective. Link to $4 set from Trans-Dapt below (same as $12 Mr. Gasket set), or just ask for them at your local nut and bolt place for even better prices - that's where I get mine, as well as "specialty type" intake and exhaust bolts.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/trd-4710


By far the best header gaskets I've run across (just recently) is the RemFlex (thick) graphite header gaskets (especially when there are imperfections in the flange). A little pricey but worth it for headers with sealing issues.
https://www.summitracing.com/search/...ll-block-gen-i
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I just used the Soft Copper type myself. They don't leak when torqued down properly.
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Originally Posted by stew86MCSS396
I have no experience with any of the these products but do recall seeing these...
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/BPP-200-076
...and while surfing, stumbled across this interesting washer concept...
https://paceperformance.com/i-119817...-bolt-kit.html
Safety wire works but can be a pita for those inaccessible areas.
They are called Nord Locks and are available SS and Zinc coated steek metric or SAE. I use them for countless applications.

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